MMC OX Assaultus

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by Devastator21, Sep 30, 2017.

  1. Digger

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    Yeah Sixo was giving some Volatus distaste as well what’s up with that? Does everyone secretly hate him? I low key think he’s the best in the set, not including Brawl which I don’t own.
    Yeah that’s what first bugged me with Zeta Armageddon, cause they had the parts to give it a toon mode but they made the colours toy like. Bit of an odd choice.
    I agree honestly. They have such a diverse and competent group of creators, some even having a touch with the offical brand. I think it’s a combination of strong intention of style and that experience/exposure to other companies and toys, they strive to really make the toys that work in the way that other transformers do.
     
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    Blast Off is Sex.
     
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    There was a pic of the Xtransbots Windcharger next to the new MP Bee in this forum and they don't look like they belong next to each other at all. Swap in the old MP Bee, and it looks perfect together. We're in a phase of MP where you can totally go for different aesthetics. I'll always be partial to the Hasui look just because it's trying simultaneously to be toon/toy/real-world. But even then I have UW Devastator with multiple upgrades as my MP Devvy because I think the Toy World bot modes are, to me, not as representative of those characters as the UW bot modes are. A collection can really be all over the place, and I am finding I am starting to lean towards playability in my MP figures. I want to be able to touch them and *gasp* transform them. I have FT Arcee and FT Springer and I've never transformed either, and probably never will. So now if I have the option between a flawless looking FT figure with a nightmare transformation, and a competitor which has a backpack/kibble and some missing paint apps, but is easy to get between modes, I am seriously going to look at that competitor's product.

    The term Chugsterpiece used to be thrown around for figures like DX-9 Chigurh. I could *kind* of see it because while he's clearly a high end AstroTrain, he's also pretty stylized like the original CHUG line. These figures aren't stylized. They're meant to represent the G1 characters, and even with the visible sacrifices for the all-in-one, they're probably the best G1 looking MP Bruticus team in bot mode currently available.
     
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    I gota say though, not matching is subjective as well in that, some just don't care about certain scales (if that's what you meant, I apologize)
    I just got PX Deathsaurus and given what little I know about the source material, he isn't quite mp scale if comparing him to that official (or 3p? Not PXs though) mp star saber, and he is supposedly bigger in bot mode to megs, galvatron, etc.

    I don't care. I have him in my "mp" collection (which is really just MY collection with my own rules).
    I also don't care about having beast wars figures like Cheetor next to an mp car, both in alt mode.
    My reasoning is that Cybertronians can't always modify their size to make sense with the world they are disguising themselves in. The show obviously has a different approach with them mostly scaling correctly to real world animals, but even in the first ep of BW, Cheetor notices Waspinator in beast mode and actually gets tipped off that he is a RID given how abnormally large this insectoid lifeform appeared. (Sure seeing them in real life like that would be crazy, but I'm alright with that, they did just need that fleshy organic matter to protect them).

    Long story short, my reasonings are my own and that is really all that matters at the end of the day.
     
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    Brawl is a better figure than Blast Off, but I like Blast Off more. Brawl is really good though, so I might as well say they're tied for first place. MMC figures are the best third party figures I've touched. Other than my 25 MMC figures, I have PE Cryotek (worse plastic), FT Hydra (worse transformation, iffy build), and Maketoys Meteor (heinous head sculpt, tiny hands), KFC Simba (worse build, worse plastic) and FH Archenemy. Only Archenemy feels as well built, though even his head sculpt isn't quite right. MMC makes a few missteps here and there (Vos' QC, for example) but overall they're the best in town.
    No, not really what I meant. I mix MP, Reformatted and CHUG too for similar reasons. For instance, I like Sixshot as a big character, so I bought FT Hydra and he works pretty well for my tastes. I don't feel like he clashes with my collection. I'd rather they were all Reformatted scaled, but it doesn't really matter that much. Reformatted just happens to be what I center my collection around, and there are some figures that just aren't up to that standard for me...if that makes any sense.

    I was just trying to say that there's such a thing as a Masterpiece scaled figure, which is usually what I've taken to mean makes something a Mp figure as opposed to a CHUG figure or what have you...the scale.
     
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    Oh okay gotcha. Right, I agree. There are still general scale standards for sure. Your deviations are probably similar to mine where in some cases, they work fine enough for the overall scale your collecting.

    Different figures scales matter for different reasons and it isn't a rigid set of rules (for me anyway)
    Though for some, they enter a store with a measuring tape before making a purchase. Lol.
     
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    Fiddling more with the setup.
     

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    Yeah, my standard is more one of quality than of scale. I can appreciate a great $20 mainline figure like Siege Spinister at the same time as loving a $700 MP set like Assaultus. My basic point was that everyone has their own standard of what they will and won't accept in their collection, whether that be scale-based or not.
     
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    Because Zeta is lazy as fuck with their "combiners" At least FT is trying really hard to make up for the lack of the third mode with a good looking: bot, alt mode and "mass shift"

    Unique Toys (RIP) and some of the new movie companies are really good at black magic
     
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    Bruticus88 Bruticus devastate Devastator!

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    And that’s a huge miss for me. When it comes to combiners, one of, if not the most important goal is to make the combined bot stable. Solid, tight arm, knee, and hip ratchets are also a good idea.

    The “all-in-one” design is nice to see... but from what I’ve seen in Assaultus, it comes with a lot of compromises. The definitive 3P NotBruticus has yet to be made imho.
     
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    Straight up.
    Y’know, it’s funny between the time you replied and now I just opened my MMC Saltus for the first time, and I’m shocked by some of the choices on him. I really wanna fix him up but god damn, let’s just say that @BIOMEC would be very disappointed.
     
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    That's why I didn't get him, it's a shame because that car mode is awesome.
     
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  13. lordcryotek

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    Oof, I felt the same way about Mors (who also doesn't have ratchets) at first but grew to love him. I would say that Mors is pretty well-toleranced, so it's not a huge issue save for in his legs. Not sure why they chose to not use ratchets in Saltus and Mors, but it's a huge mistake. I don't own Saltus, but I'd only ever heard good things before this.
     
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    "As long as it's not fractured, you can use the heat method"... It's been done and has worked.
     
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    Bruticus88 Bruticus devastate Devastator!

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    ... but he looks so nice and toony in bot mode. [​IMG]
     
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    I’m confused ... why are we half-eulogizing this set (along with praising the marvelous engineering) when there’s an easy fix - simply ship out ‘fixed’ v.2 ratchets with a future major release and just like that, you’ve created a market incentive for an additional MMC purchase (that many would’ve otherwise sat out) while at the same time having provided a needed service to the loyal customer base

    MMC has a heavy presence here so I’m not sure where the logjam would present itself in arriving at a solution beyond Fallout jerry rigging
     
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    Saltus is awesome in every way except for just one thing (least on my copy) which is his legs and their balance stability. I forget which joints aren't the best but you have to just make sure you have him in a stable pose as I recall, otherwise it could give. Not nearly as bad as it could be, just the only issue on an otherwise perfect figure imo.
     
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    Are you saying that MMC should only ship out "fixed" ratchets in a recolor package only? To force people to buy a whole new set for the ratchets? I only purchased this set due to my Weijiang drama depression...had I held out, this set would not have been purchased, as good as it was/is. Bruticus was not a character on my radar.
     
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    Not quite - I’m saying that when MMC releases their first component for Defensor, let’s say, include the fixed ratchets for Bruticus, or hell, stretch it out over multiple releases, but the priority should be to make the loyal customer whole, esp. for something easily remedied such as this, in a way that could likely boost their future sales
     
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    Yes well said @PrimeProblem. Eulogizing indeed! I think we should be glad the set is complete and does everything it set out to do. MMC are still finding their feet and developing and learning as they go. This is their first combiner with the all-built-in feature. Its not like they've done 10 years of combiners and have it all mastered perfectly. The figures and the combined form all do themselves proud as does the individual articulation. Be assured, if the joints in question on Incursus were too tight there'd be a backlash decrying this. Sure, we've had to take matters into our own hands to do some DIY fixes to strengthen and improve joints just so we can have Assaultus so rigid he can do handstands. But MMC didn't have a completed product to begin with that would've identified these concerns. Its been a design journey as they've worked their way through putting out each team member. I'm sure they're silently watching this thread and taking on board areas for improvement. They demonstrated this by including a replacement ratchet with Probus at the 11th hour. For me, I'm grateful the set was completed and has as many positives as it has. And particularly grateful for those of you that have shared their DIY tips so we can make an already outstanding product just that bit better. Ends of rant, will get off my soapbox now.