It's really hard for me to count those two as Caitians despite Word of God confirming so since they were just human-looking with a couple skin patterns and a long tail, like anime cat-girls. I guess the film-makers thought having their movie Kirk with a more traditional looking version would be too much for casual audiences or something. I'd accept it if they were Caitian-human hybrids or just another species all together, but if they wanted to go that direction, they should have committed.
Seriously, this is what I been talking about. This is this show's idea of a joke, when Rutherford tells D'Vana that they should train on the holodeck: I can literally see this being made by the writer telling the unpaid intern "Hey you there, go up on Memory Alpha, get me a list of all the famous people that ever appeared on the holodeck on TNG, DS9, Voyager... ALL of them". Wait, what??? There were Caitians in the Abramstrek movies? I remember the Orion girl Kirk was in bed with (and I was like, WTF, they are a species known for both their criminal empire and their pheromone-controlling females who are basically like Poison Ivy... how would one be in Starfleet?) but not Caitians. Disappointing then that they looked like that, but thankfully like the rest of those movies, they are not canon to regular Trek.
The two girls Kirk was in bed with in the beginning of "...into Darkness" seem confirmed as Caitians, though like I said, it's a stretch.
Ah... I barely remember them (I only ever watched that movie once and it was more than enough). They don't even look catlike. More like anthropomorph monkeys, like they were from a live action Monkey King movie.
That was a terrible design even if they didn't want to make them all furry. The Avatar managed their blue aliens look catlike by their facial structure alone, it's not that hard to do with the felines, y'know.
I actually got curious enough to check out Memory Alpha (the main Star Trek Wiki) to see what the reasoning behind this was since it's usually good for obscure trivia like that, but the only thing that confirms these twins as Caitians is an interview with one of "...Into Darkness"'s writers, Damon Lindelof, where he was asked specifically if they were the same species as the animated series, which he quickly confirmed with a yes then moved on to other questions. As for the drastic visual change, looks like the reasons for that will be lost to the ages. EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Damon Lindelof
Agreed. They just made the base of the nose more wide, and it does the trick. But the movie was made in... 2009 or so? I am pretty sure they could have done fur effects well by that date, considering how Beast looked in First Class.
Okay, I gotta be “that guy”. Anyone know a good place to pirate this show? Because if they’re dropping the first episode on YouTube and Discovery is coming to the broadcast line up, I’m definitely not shelling out for an exclusive streaming service. Okay, couple of thoughts working my way through the comments: 1.) Casting issues aside, if you ever wanna see what would have happened if Ro Laren and Kira Nerys had to work together, Ro was assigned to DS9 as a security officer in one of the books that came out after the series went off the air. A lot of cool things happened in the first few books that almost made me wish the show had another season. 2.) Just because Orions aren’t part of the Federation doesn’t mean they can’t occasionally have people in Star Fleet. Best cannon example is Nog, who was a commissioned officer before Ferenginar became a member world. Also, Worf, though he was adopted by humans, so maybe there’s an asterisk there. 3.) Am I the only one who thinks Rutherford is a recovered Borg? That actually might be a very interesting storyline to pursue. D’Vana seemed to be very casual about him being a “recent cyborg” is it possible there’s some program in place where recovered Borg are de-assimilated? Half of Rutherford’s brain might be gone and the implants are to save his life but he’s half the person he was. 4.) The premise of the show is that the Cerritos is far from a front line ship. There was even a line in the Orville’s first episode about, “we don’t really care about your qualifications, I’ve got over a hundred ships to assign.” Which was kinda funny. As a far down the line ship, we already see corruption and nepotism playing a part. The captain is trying to keep her daughter from being tossed out of Star Fleet and her husband is covering her tracks probably. Star Fleet has never been as perfect as Captain Picard made it seem. He’s a shining idealist. I’m sure the “average” Starfleet officer is probably a lot rougher around the edges. (We’ve seen plenty of extras of the week display racism, incompetence and corruption. There’s even a guy who’s got it out for Riker and points out all the times he wasn’t the best officer.) To be honest, if the Cerritos was an Oberth class, people probably would believe it was full of screw ups. 5.) Haven’t seen more than the first ep and some clips, but I’m assuming the bunks in the wall aren’t a “corridor” but actually a dedicated dorm area. This is not unprecedented, in the Navy submarine quarters are pretty much a hallway. Also, there was a lot of really cool stuff speculated on in the movie era that we never got to see. The blueprints for the “Enterprise Hallway” set (which I think was still used as late as Voyager) included diagrams for space suit lockers and storage compartments. In theory (though never shown) if a corridor was depressurized a crewman could retrieve a space suit, tool kit, and survival bag from every 6 foot section of corridor.
That is not my point, she was acting weird right at the start with no segway into any of this sudden mood shift. I understand her reasons why after the Flashback, but there was never a scene in the episode setting up Boimler TELLING her he was in a committed relationship, which honestly I thought would have been in the stinger in a sort of, gag moment. I half expected the reason for why she was acting so crazy around him to be because the pheromones of the parasite affected her differently due to genuine feelings towards the dude. It's a common trope in a lot of things after all.
Because Mariner is "street smart" and thinks Boimler is too dorky to score a real girlfriend meaning it must be an alien or something.
Well, at least the ships and the environments are pretty. But I think I'll rather watch ST:LD screencaps for these eyecandies.
So when it's TV-14 it's okay to show blood and decapitation but God forbid we show real guns in cartoons.
It's a corridor. One of the characters even says that they have to sleep in a hallway until they rank up to earn their own quarters. And this is unusual compared to every other Star Trek series... Every other series has always shown junior officers have quarters, albeit they generally had to share with one or more roommates.
So they added an Edosian - second time since Arex on the Animated Series that we had seen one. Frankly at first I almost got confused that they added a Species 8742 member in Starfleet before I remembered they are not the only 3-limbed species in the franchise. And yeah, they say that Division 16 exists to hide the horrific accidents that'd look bad in Starfleet's resume. Instead of, y'know, curing them. Because they are bad for crew morale... Seriously? In a world where a blind man was chief engineer of the Enterprise, and where Tuvix, a horrific transporter accident (well, he is 50% Neelix, that is horrific! ), was chief of security of Voyager for months. That said, there was one joke that made me chuckle, namely "Anthony". Guess someone else tried to replicate Paris' over-warp-10-flight. Oh and they also added a guy from the same species as the albino space elf who looks like she is a Destiny character from ST Beyond to Starfleet. I dunno what the species name is but I never heard of them existing in the regular not-Kelvin timeline. I hate to defend this show, but that is on the holodeck and that is not a real Bajoran. Given this is by the "blood and guts are funny" Rick and Morty guys, I expected a high death toll every episode, but they did not even make a redshirt joke and I don't think any crewmate died so far... even the guy whose heart is removed from the body in the first episode survives. There are plenty of gross scenes like that, though. Plus the swearing. Is TV-14 some new category between PG and R? They sure make a lot of sex jokes in the show too. You never heard of Kimcartoon or Watchcartoononline? Just go there, and watch any toon streamed for free. Kira and Ro together sound like a curious idea. They were similar characters, but Ro was in Starfleet Academy while Kira was fighting the Cardassians, which would make a big difference. I dunno, never heard of Ferenginar being in the Federation. I doubt most Ferengi would agree to follow Federation laws and regulations instead of the Rules of Acquisitions. Might have happened in Online, but that is not canon. I'd be fine if D'Vana was some special case like Worf and Nog, but... those two were famous. Everyone knew Worf as "that Starfleet Klingon". Here, nobody even mentions that she is unusual. No, they say that he got a new "Vulcan implant" in the first episode. They imply that is the reason for his logical and OCD behaviour. They say that in the first episode, but it is never explained why he needed that implant, maybe some brain injury? He even fights holographic Borg in a simulation (whom he super easily beats by allowing the implant to use martial arts, because this show is dumb), I think he would have been traumatized or impacted somehow if he suddenly had to face Borg as a former drone. How can you cite the Orville about a Star Trek show as explanation? That show tries to be TNG, hard, but it isn't. Nothing that happens there has relevance here. Also, trust me, I watched 7 episodes - I could accept Mariner being the one insubordinate, terrible officer, but everyone on the ship is like this, even the captain. Also, they keep swearing all the time. Jerrico (whom they reference in episode 7 because the interns googled "replacement captain" told Riker his mind, and he told him his opinion, but they did it without calling each other names or swearing. No, the bunk is actually a corridor. It has no doors and there is traffic there all the time.
Yeah, I made that comment before I knew the context of the scene since that screencap was the first thing I saw of the episode, so I'll take the fall for that one.
Nope, can’t say that I have. But I got the hookup already and I’m all caught up for now up to ep. 7. Well, it’s kinda like root beer,,, It’s only a matter of time before they like it. It’s insidious! Again, and it’s a bit dark, what’s the alternative for Orion females? Orions may not be officially recognized as a member world (?) race, but if Starfleet accepts non-member recruits, it’s a logical place for Orion women that don’t want to be objectified to go to. Okay the answer to this is two fold: 1.) it was probably the Vulcans that made the implant as they’re probably better programmers and comparable physicians. It also makes sense that they would keep emotions as a subroutine. 2.) which leads to the second point, Rutherford can literally turn his emotions off if he wants. It’s like an emulator. So he doesn’t fear the Borg and what they did to him if he turned it off. Like the Orion situation above, they may never get into this if the show wants to continue to be a light hearted comedy and not a dark drama, but I argue the threads are there. Why would Tendi call him a “recent cyborg?” What happened to him that half of his head was replaced? That might also explain the background character with the LaForge visor too. Maybe unlike Geordi who was born blind it was a recent impairment. Also, one other thing I’ve always wanted to see, if you took Seven of Nine out of her jumpsuit the sci-fi nerd in me wanted them to show large sections of her anatomy missing. Similar to the droid from Ex Machina. I understand that this would have been beyond Voyager’s budget though.
Yes, I think the implant was made by Vulcans hence why he is more logical. I think the author originally just wanted to make him into Data 2.0 but probably CBS vetoed that. Often feels like he is meant to be that. There seem to be a LOT of background characters with Geordi visors. Makes no sense, since his case was a special one, him being born without optic nerves. And even he got cybernetic eyes by the time this show takes place (it is set after Nemesis and I think by First Contact Geordi had new eyes). Hehehe I bet a LOT of us would have liked to see Seven out of her jumpsuit. I always took the various "ribs" that show through her clothing on the torso and back that there are still a lot of implants in her. But no, parts of her body would not be missing, the Doctor said most of her human body was regrown, he left the Borg implants in where they were doing a better job than human organs. We have seen other Borgs too who recovered more or less in that Voyager episode with the "Community" collective where Chakotay gets partially assimilated too, and they mostly had human bodies with a few implants here and there.
Another episode of a character asking why Mariner is still an ensign if she's that good when she's serious. First was her mother, now her friend. I want to say this is like Picard declining his promotions to stay a captain, but she doesn't deserve this comparison. Mariner is still not likable for me to say she's in the right.
