Thinnking about Ark in those events always brings to me this other question:why Decepticons after Autobot city battle didn't return to the Victory,their undersea base?Was in 2005 abandoned and had become a sunken wreckage? That was their main Earth base and also if they had been returned to Cybertron during 2.5 season , was a foolish decision remaining with no near bases, where Megatron could have been repaired, instead of being forced to go all of them on Astrotrain until Cybertron. Surely it's because was first reason they though to justify Megatron and others floating itn the space but it ruins Deceptcion approach,an Earth HQ should have remained.

 

The troops on Earth outside of Autobot City didn't know about Megatron's sneak attack, so they were all at home eating energon waffles  

 

If you watch only Season 1 and Season 2 up through episode 26 - and then skip to the movie, things make a whole lot more sense. You pretty much have to ignore the second half of season 2 in order for the movie to work properly as that's about all the writers had written before they finished the movie script. You also get to skip a lot of the eye-bleeding AKOM animation.

 

Uh , not exactly what was said

“Once Decepticons nearly held the Quadrant through terror”

It’s possible that ship was destroyed before 2005

We can’t assume it was still there And abandoned

 

True true but in this case if Victory was lost, they could have built another base just for continued war,I find strange that a so military faction would commit a so silly error. Yes it's a kid movie to sell toys and we can't claim all of this thinking,I only find funny that make these contradictions emerge.

 

I tend to not see it as a contradiction , but more of a result of the conquest of cybertron

In other words, it took just about all their resources to run the autobots off cybertron, and as a result.....the autobots were able to run them off earth for the most part

Maybe the Stunticons and Combaticons maintained small bunkers, but not the type of base that would have been useful after the attack on autobot city

 

I do not rule out that undersea was completely deserted but I am of the belief that Decepticons used the undersea base until 2005, but with a much smaller presence and mainly to gather intelligence on the Autobots.

I am thinking it could have been a ploy by Astrotrain and Starscream to take the crew back to Cybertron and Megatron was too weak to just fly them back to the undersea base (I think the jettison some weight line was caused by Unicron though).

Or maybe the Decepticons knew that there were Aerialbots were located between Autobot City and the undersea base and thought there best chance of survival was to head to Cybertron.

Either way would love to see a well-written series 2.5.

I would like to think that the Constructicons maybe repaired the 'Victory' ship to full working order and used this ship to fly through the Quadrant.

Maybe a small base undersea was kept for the Decepticons in its place and at the same location.

 

On which page of which issue is the battle of omega supreme vs menasor and bruticus? my comics don't seem to have that page?

 

What books are you reading?

 

IDW Transformers the movie animated, contains 4 comics.

those 'scenes'are only in th TPB it seems

 

Yep that’s what I was about to post

 

I did not expect this thread to be revived. But in anycase, I like to think that the Decepticons were successfully plundering other planets to get enough fuel to use Cybertron as the core of its operation. I do not really think the Autobots evicted the Decepticons from Earth, but it was more of a strategic from the Decepticons to largely or fully withdrawal from Earth.

The fate of the undersea base is a mystery, perhaps the Decepticons could have relaunched the spaceship.

 

I really don’t see much of a difference between the two

if abandoning earth was Strategically sound, then they didn’t have the resources to maintain a viable presence due to autobot forces

 

I am thinking they would have some presence, maybe for hit and run missions and espionage. Would you agree?

 

I don’t think they require an earthbound presents for those type of missions, they didn’t seem to have any problem coming and going when they wanted to

but it’s possible

 

Cool

That being the case, would you see the Decepticons retaining their undersea base?

I am thinking they may have revived the spaceship for mining operations on other planets and just left a small base at the location of the undersea base.

 

No

If the decepticons didn’t find a way to take it with them, that would have been target number one for the autobots to either destroy or Occupy during the process of getting the cons off earth

 

I think with space-bridge technology they would have easily shipped in fuel from other planets to Cybertron, without the need for giant space crafts.

That being the case would the Decepticons destroyed their own undersea base, for security?

I kind of think that the Autobots would not go out of their way to destroy the undersea base, but important information could be left by the Decepticons, thus perhaps the Decepticons would destroy their own base.

I assume the Decepticons would want to have some sort of base near earth, maybe an Asteriod or something or maybe use one of moons of Mars.

 

Theoretically, but the space bridge technology itself didn’t seem reliable, was costly on its own, and the cons seem unable to guard those sights

Very possible

I don’t see it as being “out of their way”

I also don’t see the autobots leaving such a well known threat for anyone to stumble upon

 

I still think on xyz planet they could just build a space bridge and transport fuel to Cybertron rather than get a big ship to transport it back to Cybertron. A bit like when someone has new technology they really want to make it work (whatever the flaws) rather than rely on old ways.

Good point.

Just on Decepticons operations after they have left to go back to Cybertron en-masse, and they destroy the undersea base for security reasons.

In the movie it takes Optimus Prime say 12 hours to get from the Cybertron to Earth, he gets the call late afternoon and does not arrive until after sunrise the next day.

Would you have Decepticons just have raids to Earth from directly Cybertron or would you have them on another base on earth, or somewhere between Earth and Cybertron.