Dune

Discussion in 'Movies and Television' started by Pharoid, Mar 11, 2018.

  1. SouthtownKid

    SouthtownKid Headmaster

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2011
    Posts:
    26,059
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    357
    Likes:
    +10,547
    Biggest? Okay. But far from all. You've also got Burroughs in there, too, for example... who Lucas also stole from (both directly and indirectly through Raymond). You can't just pretend the list stops there.

    Orwell, Huxley, Dick, etc.

    Never mind the stuff that's pure archetype of which ownership can be claimed by nobody. There's a reason Lucas brings up Campbell every 5 seconds besides being a convenient excuse for stealing from other sources (although that may be the main reason). But also because it's kind of true.
     
    Last edited: Sep 5, 2020
    • Like Like x 2
  2. pluto

    pluto Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2011
    Posts:
    1,165
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Likes:
    +2,268
    The archetype stuff is a direct reference to Campbell and jung, and the former of whom was in vogue at the time of Herbert's writing and who he helped popularised (so that Lucas could go on and skim off the top).

    Lucas' limp remix of the arguably deranged themes of dune (tendency toward fascism in human societies, eugenic space wizards) in no way resembles how Herbert utilised Burroughs' space opera sword and scifi stuff (which extends almost exclusively to...sword fighting in space).

    The more interesting conversation is the dialogue between the foundation series and dune, where the two authors are actively speaking to each other about their shared themes.
     
  3. QLRformer

    QLRformer Seeker

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Posts:
    28,661
    News Credits:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    362
    Likes:
    +20,002
  4. SouthtownKid

    SouthtownKid Headmaster

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2011
    Posts:
    26,059
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    357
    Likes:
    +10,547
    I'm sure it will be fine and everything, but I was almost getting Hayden Christensen Anakin vibes there. :eek: 
     
  5. QLRformer

    QLRformer Seeker

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Posts:
    28,661
    News Credits:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    362
    Likes:
    +20,002


    Another sneak peek featuring a look at more of the cast.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  6. QLRformer

    QLRformer Seeker

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Posts:
    28,661
    News Credits:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    362
    Likes:
    +20,002
    The trailer according to Reddit will release in about two hours.

    But there will be more news afterwards.

    [​IMG]
     
  7. ErbFan28

    ErbFan28 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2009
    Posts:
    7,634
    News Credits:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Location:
    Southern Illinois
    Likes:
    +1,799


    This looks spectacular!
     
    • Like Like x 8
  8. AgentOrange

    AgentOrange Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2015
    Posts:
    1,856
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Likes:
    +2,255
    [​IMG]
     
    • Like Like x 1
  9. QLRformer

    QLRformer Seeker

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Posts:
    28,661
    News Credits:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    362
    Likes:
    +20,002
    That looks every bit the sweeping space opera across the beautiful but barren desertland that is the tale of Paul Atreides.

    It's not so colorful or showy as previous adaptations, but Villeneuve has the talent of keeping his VFX and visuals beautiful but simple, and his aesthetic IMO greatly benefits this tale.
     
    • Like Like x 4
  10. Pharoid

    Pharoid Time Traveling Robot

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2013
    Posts:
    18,615
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    367
    Location:
    New Crobuzon
    Likes:
    +27,532
    Looks PERFECT.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  11. GuardianAngel87

    GuardianAngel87 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 21, 2012
    Posts:
    4,123
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Likes:
    +1,742
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2020
  12. SouthtownKid

    SouthtownKid Headmaster

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2011
    Posts:
    26,059
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    357
    Likes:
    +10,547
    Looks great.

    But I notice they changed the word 'jihad' to 'crusade'. In a way, I get the studio's fear, but in another way, it's unfortunate.
     
    • Like Like x 8
  13. Pharoid

    Pharoid Time Traveling Robot

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2013
    Posts:
    18,615
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    367
    Location:
    New Crobuzon
    Likes:
    +27,532
    Nice catch. Let’s see how much of the audience misses the subtle Jihad overtones, lol.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  14. Incepticon

    Incepticon |-+-|

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2006
    Posts:
    17,149
    News Credits:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    387
    Likes:
    +12,305
    It's been a long time since we've seen this kind of "meant to be" kismet match-up in way of director-to-film. I can't think of anyone more suited to tackling something like Dune than Villeneuve.

    Trailer looks exactly like everything I expected - in a good way, obviously.
     
    • Like Like x 5
  15. electronic456

    electronic456 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2011
    Posts:
    5,037
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    282
    Likes:
    +5,333
    I’m intrigued. The David Lynch one was a mixed bag and is memorable for its own production design.

    With this one, I’m definitely picking up a more epic vibe.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  16. Rodimus74

    Rodimus74 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2013
    Posts:
    12,377
    Trophy Points:
    307
    Likes:
    +7,272
    Amazing trailer. Can't wait!
     
    • Like Like x 5
  17. gabumon

    gabumon papertoy designer

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2006
    Posts:
    4,002
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Likes:
    +1,359
    awesome!!!

    now to decide:
    is it worth going to the theater for - and risk someone sneezing on me.... UHG 2020
     
    • Like Like x 2
  18. Pharoid

    Pharoid Time Traveling Robot

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2013
    Posts:
    18,615
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    367
    Location:
    New Crobuzon
    Likes:
    +27,532
    I am little concerned if this hasn’t all been shot at once and he doesn’t get through the first book. My biggest concern right now is going back and shooting the second half. I can’t confirm if it’s all been done or not.
     
  19. hellrasinbrasin

    hellrasinbrasin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2007
    Posts:
    6,977
    Trophy Points:
    337
    Likes:
    +915
    ...So excited to finally have ... potentially have an amazing adaptation of Dune. I agree if Dune is being done as a 2 part event then part 2 has to be Dune Messiah.
     
  20. Pharoid

    Pharoid Time Traveling Robot

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2013
    Posts:
    18,615
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    367
    Location:
    New Crobuzon
    Likes:
    +27,532
    No mean this movie doesn’t even cover the whole first book. My understanding is this was always to be a two-part movie of just Dune. I don’t think Fayd is even in this and if he is... he’s a reveal at the end. That’s what I’m saying.
     
    • Like Like x 1