I’m in for most of the core characters but I haven’t pulled the trigger on Jackalman. What do we think? Wait for a reissue or just get this edition and the new parts?
Thought about it, but I’m trying to limit myself to the core team and both versions of Mumm-Ra (and the tank, if they make it).
Same here, had PDD Destro come into stock the day after the Cats did, and he's already shipped. I don't understand how BBTS' shipping works. If nothing else it seems like the two orders should have shipped together.
I had SHF Sagat in my POL and paid for both to ship together on Tue. They are slow with shipping sometimes.
I just got Lion-o and Panthro today. Panthro seems fine from an inspection through the box window but Lion-O not so much. This may seem like nit picking but there is a lot of sloppy paint applications on the belt, waist and faces. Also there is a chunk of flashing on the figure’s right abdominal joint.
I am definitely going to get a replacement or just return them. I wish Figuarts, Mafex or some other higher end company l would take a crack at Thundercats. Because honestly, the classics buck is very outdated and ugly from an articulation standpoint. It’s the 4H sculpt that has always been the draw. I wish they could produce these figures directly with mythic legions quality.
It’s bizarre because I thought Super 7 was supposed to be high(ish) end? It’s not like this is a $20 figure from Target. My Lion-O arrives midweek and I’ll be looking at it closely. I’m not a stickler AT ALL about these things usually, but at this price I feel like you gotta be.
Big fan of the Classics buck. Not really interested in a Mafex T-Cats line can’t imagine anything more pointless. $100 bucks a pop and you wouldn’t get close a full line-up.
I also posited figuarts and four horsemen themselves (my personal preference) as possible examples. There other possibilities as well. I can respect that we have a different opinions, but calling mine stupid was unnecessarily rude.
Thanks for sharing. Looks like a clusterf$&k of paint issues. At the same time, I'm not surprised. I just hope my copy isn't like that. My experience with S7 is that they're really just high-end prices with (sometimes less than) $20 quality. I was so tired of the constant paint (and sometimes joint) issues with the S7 Filmation figures that I sold most of them and replaced them with Mattel Classics figures. I bought like 3 Filmation Hordaks and 2 Filmation Man-At-Arms and still couldn't get one figure with reasonably decent paint apps. I finally sold my remaining Filmation Hordak on eBay and bought a Mattel Buzz-Saw Hordak for a fraction of the cost, and it's amazing the difference in quality, as far as paint and joints, between the S7 and Mattel figures. Joint tolerances for S7 figs are sometimes all over the place (Pixel Dan already reported on the super-loose ab joint for Lion-O and loose mid-body joint for Raphael). And their recent 5-inch MOTU line was plagued with hip breakages for certain characters. You would think. Figuarts, Mafex, Storm, Mezco, Medicos, etc....some of these companies produce higher-priced stuff, but some, like Figuarts, are around what S7's asking for, and none of these companies seem to be plagued with the kinds of constant issues--both niggling and major--that seem to plague S7 releases. Are they perfect? Not at all. Do they have occasional paint or other problems? Sure. But generally, these companies have their shit together, and even if you get a lemon, there's a good chance that you can buy or exchange for a better copy. I find that difficult with S7, as their problems frequently affect the entire run of figures. I find the Classics buck too stocky for the Thundercats characters. It's fitting for MOTU, and it worked well for that line because the characters basically all have the same barbarian body. But I thought Bandai did a better job of balancing buff with feline agility, proportionally speaking. The He-Man buck works well for certain characters, like Panthro or Monkian, but otherwise, it feels outdated to me and seems shoehorned into this line. Mafex don't have to cost $100 a pop. The past couple years, I've been paying about $40-50 for Figuarts (sometimes less), and about $70-75 for Mafex figs, shipped. And even if they did cost twice as much, I'd rather a company that can produce a defect-free figure handle this property than S7. Frankly, anyone other than S7. Or even Hasbro...at least the price would match the quality. And a Mafex T-Cats fig would not just be produced with better quality (relative to S7, anyway), but be way better sculpted...have you handled the Mafex Dark Knight Returns figure? Sculpt- and quality-wise, it's easily a front-runner for figure of the year. It's mind-blowingly good and so far ahead of where S7 is that it's not even funny.
Mafex don’t have to cost a $100 but they do cost $100. Sure you can order them overseas cheaper but does that sound like a recipe for success? Right now they’re cranking out Batmans. Batman sells all the time. How far are they going to get into Thundercats? Not far. At they’re made by Medicom so there isn’t a hope hell you’ll see a price reduction. They do look great but I am not looking for that, I want a cohesive line not a really nicely done Lion-O. I also want the obscure characters I am not in this for 5 characters. And as far as Figuarts ago...I don’t fucking think so. Figuarts can’t pull off a decent sculpt on a property that isn’t Japanese or a Robot. Their Avengers and any movie character faces look like a steaming piles of crap. As far as Bandai’s line went.... yeah. No. I’ll take the Horseman sculpts and hope I get some decent paint apps.
I kind of like those Bandai figures in a “terrible but toyetic” way. I bet a fully fleshed out line in that style would have done well. Having 3-4 different scales just ruined everything about that line.
I think that Bandai has very high sales expectations and is used to moving a lot of product. It's why they not only gave up on the Thundercats line, but also the SHF Turtles line. They just didn't realize that Thundercats is more of a niche property (compared to, say, Power Rangers). The toy sales from the cartoon weren't good. It's why the cartoon was cancelled. The success of the Classics figs depended on the modern figs doing well with BOTH kids and collectors. And well, they didn't... Yeah, we're just gonna have to disagree. I happen to think that SHF is currently the best 6-inch-scaled product on the market. And quality-wise--like actual quality per dollar spent--between SHF and just about any S7 product? Not even close. Likeness isn't something I particularly care about, but I thought the SHF Infinity War Thor and Scarlet Witch, as well as the various Thanos's, were amazing. As is that Infinity War Hulk. To each his own. And if we're going to talk about faces...I find that S7's ability to handle faces can be quite subpar at times...the atrocity that was Filmation Teela's face, the consistent paint errors on Filmation Evil Lyn's face, the fact that I'm using Mattel's Classics Teela head on the Ultimates Teela body because it's so much better than S7's face... Yeah, I don't know. I think when it comes to detail, and to the intricacy of detail, SHF runs circles around S7. Thundercats is one of those 80s properties that's just obscure enough that it seemingly can only be handled in this niche fashion (in the absence of super-successful media). I think most of us commenting on this thread understand the economic realities of that, and of how difficult an import Thundercats line would be to produce. We were just fantasizing about how much better the figures would be if they were made by someone else, as far as the actual quality of the toys... As far as reusing the MOTUC buck for the Thundercats line, all I have to say is that even LJN--despite how ugly those figures were--invested in original sculpts for different characters. The character designs for Thundercats are so wonderfully varied that applying the same 'roided-up body to character after character just seems uninspiring.
The whole thing was a mess start to finish. I bought the classic stuff but ugh. Really bad toys more LJN than ‘toon. Yet another TCats failure. It’s fun to wax poetic about what could be... but it’s good to be realistic, Bandai epically failed at this before.
That Cap head is kind of whatever. I'm not crazy about it either. Definitely not one of the better figs in the line. But comparing S7 to Figuarts--on the subject of faces--is admittedly apples and oranges given that the source materials are so different (live action vs. cartoon). But let's go with that. If we're gonna cherry-pick, you're telling me that you think a company that was shameless enough to charge money for this... ...is on the same level as a company that's cranking these out? And as far as this goes: You really thought the Bandai stuff was "more LJN than 'toon"? I don't know about that...I'm not saying the Bandai figures were perfect. But you're just indulging in hyperbole at this point.
