Kingdom Rattrap?

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by The13Primes, Aug 25, 2020.

  1. cybeast

    cybeast Freelancer Pun Maker

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2011
    Posts:
    3,670
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Likes:
    +7,299
    T30 Ratrap is good, but the rubbery joint kills my mood to actually fiddle with it.
    The OG is outdated... kinda. It transform just fine, but getting the weapon out kills my nail.

    So this one is a really really nice welcome addition <3 just hoping that the weapon can be stored on his rat mode.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  2. theestampede

    theestampede Wandering Artist

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2009
    Posts:
    11,176
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    362
    Likes:
    +15,847
    So, outside of price, is there a legitimate reason for having two show accurate lines running?
     
  3. cybeast

    cybeast Freelancer Pun Maker

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2011
    Posts:
    3,670
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Likes:
    +7,299
    Price, availability, Playability...

    MP is good yes, but it's expensive, and you can't really find it in just any toy store compared to Core class.
    Also, MP is not really good for playability. I'm talking about transforming while fiddling on desk, or kids playing with it.

    On the other hand, MP is a very good display piece.

    Not to mention that MP has limited selection right now...

    Even then, if we're going back to the very basic reason, there's no reason to not have more than one show accurate lines, tbh.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  4. fake

    fake Return to Innocence

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2012
    Posts:
    1,878
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Likes:
    +363
    I didnt follow this thread but is there an MP Rattrap in the works?
     
  5. cybeast

    cybeast Freelancer Pun Maker

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2011
    Posts:
    3,670
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Likes:
    +7,299
    Not yet.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  6. Goldlock

    Goldlock and don't call me Shirley

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2011
    Posts:
    3,824
    News Credits:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    257
    Likes:
    +13,332
    Rattrap is probably my favourite character from my favourite iteration of Transformers.

    This'll do quite nicely! The only real complains I have are the feet, which are tolerable, and a lack of paint on the nose and tail (easily remedied).

    I love the direction of more "realistic" beast modes, since that's throwing a bone to the original concept of Beast Wars, rather than just the show, which MP's are knocking out of the park anyway.

    It does look like this Rattrap is roughly the same size as the original, so it'll hopefully be nostalgic as hell to handle too.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  7. fake

    fake Return to Innocence

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2012
    Posts:
    1,878
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Likes:
    +363
    how is this different from the Generations Rattrap...looks the same but then I am not too familiar with Beast Wars. I dont have the nostalgic connection with that show like some of you here.
     
  8. Michael Payton

    Michael Payton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2016
    Posts:
    2,653
    News Credits:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Likes:
    +5,805
    The same reason they make one steps of movie toys, studio Series and MPM
     
    • Like Like x 1
  9. cybeast

    cybeast Freelancer Pun Maker

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2011
    Posts:
    3,670
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Likes:
    +7,299
    Size, detail, etc etc. Lot of difference, it's easier to find what's similar.
     
  10. Joalro

    Joalro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2010
    Posts:
    3,966
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Likes:
    +10,347
    Watch the show. It is fantastic.
     
    • Like Like x 4
  11. Yoshimon7

    Yoshimon7 Potion Maker

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2018
    Posts:
    2,578
    News Credits:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Likes:
    +15,108
    Ebay:
    Did you not see the side by side comparison of the two?
     
    • Like Like x 4
  12. MarikZero

    MarikZero Monika

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2009
    Posts:
    715
    Trophy Points:
    207
    Likes:
    +2,272
    774D2164-6725-40CA-966E-3AA7071887FB.jpeg Kingdom-Core-class-Rattrap-04.jpg Kingdom-Core-class-Rattrap-05.jpg Kingdom-Core-class-Rattrap-22.jpg
     
    • Like Like x 11
  13. HeroJr

    HeroJr Maximal Conservation

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2010
    Posts:
    102
    Trophy Points:
    122
    Location:
    NC, USA
    Likes:
    +90
    BW is one of my fave corners of the franchise, so the news of Kingdom figures is very welcome.

    When the show originally aired I was in college and didn't have the budget or time to do much collecting. I remember watching the show and finding it to be more sophisticated than I expected.

    Now Beast Wars is probably my primary area of collecting, although I do pick up some fav characters from other eras from time to time. In fact, my most recent purchases, via eBay, have been: Wolfang, K-9, Snapper, Iguanas, Amordillo, Sonar, and Transmetal Cybershark.

    I have the T30 version of Rattrap (along with T30 Rhinox) and liked it. But I like this one, too. It will be interesting to see how I feel about its scale once I have it, as it seems quite small. Not out-of-scale to a CHUG Beast Wars collection, but still, small. I am definitely on the side of the Kingdom version looking more like the cartoon robot than the T30 version does.

    To me, the original BW basics kinda don't need updates. I mean, you could update them and even improve them, but they are also surprisingly good for their time. I understand if people complain that they all have the same transformation, but in some ways, it's pretty cool that each of them has a unique, well-sculpted animal that then flips around to be a reasonably articulated little character.

    Still, I would buy updated BW basics probably- as long as they stay in the $10-15 range! Rattrap is the only BW figure rumored to be in the "Core" class so far, right? All other guesses about which BW characters might come out as a new "Basic" are just guesses..?
     
    • Like Like x 3
  14. Foster

    Foster Haslab Victory Saber Backer #3 Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2003
    Posts:
    41,316
    News Credits:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    447
    Likes:
    +42,462
    T30 is more of an IDW Rattrap, and the Kingdom looks more accurate to the show. Both have their purpose. That buck-toothed smirk just oozes personality!
     
    • Like Like x 3
  15. Michael Payton

    Michael Payton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2016
    Posts:
    2,653
    News Credits:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Likes:
    +5,805
    The Kingdom Rattrap mold definitely looks more like the animation model, at least in robot mode. I can add paint with Gundam Markers if it bugs me too much. It's also cheap enough that I can buy two if i mess up the first one. Honestly, the Markers cost more than the toy.
     
  16. Haywired

    Haywired Hakunamatatacon

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2014
    Posts:
    9,049
    Trophy Points:
    247
    Likes:
    +12,942
    Pretty good, sculpt-wise. If I cared about Beast Wars I'd be getting it.


    Edit: Thinking about it... For this size class and price I might be getting it only because I like small all-balljointed figures. Looks like it'll be as fun as are Cyberjets.
     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2020
    • Like Like x 1
  17. Actar

    Actar Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2009
    Posts:
    3,913
    News Credits:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Likes:
    +19,475
    Well, first:

    20200826_214405.jpg

    But secondly, you're taking my comment out of context. I value show-accuracy, but many people don't. And that's fine. But there are reasons for multiple lines doing the same thing including price and availability.
     
    • Like Like x 10
  18. T-Hybrid

    T-Hybrid Gnodab Kidult (He/Him)

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2006
    Posts:
    38,496
    News Credits:
    59
    Trophy Points:
    412
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Likes:
    +79,148
    I mean, that's fine. Tigatron scanned Snowstalker, a female tiger, when he assumed his beast mode.

    Snapper was my first BW so I'm biased towards him, but I also liked how Insecticon's crossbow was hidden in bug mode. Wolfang was another figure I really liked and while he was pretty good already a new one would just be icing on the cake.

    The other fun thing about guys like that is they were never on the show, so scale wouldn't be an issue. They could put them in whatever price point that let them make the best figure. So like, a Core Retrax that could curl in to a little ball without the spring gimmick. Or a simpler transformation like Injector at the Core level where he can be a little pest.

    Speaking of which, can we use this opportunity to get some new BW guys? Like a sheep?
     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2020
    • Like Like x 3
  19. Alph

    Alph Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2004
    Posts:
    4,283
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Likes:
    +10,946
    Wow, TE Rattrap and Kingdom Rattrap are even closer in size than I expected.

    [​IMG]

    Which is good for me. Means I won't feel any awkwardness about just using TE instead, since the scale will be practically the same.
     
    • Like Like x 4
  20. Kaynowa

    Kaynowa #MakeTransformersStupidAgain

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2019
    Posts:
    11,120
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    277
    Likes:
    +26,386
    Hell Beast Wars itself started the trend of having accurate models around season 2. The transmetals and fuzors have little to no stylistic changes from toy to model. Then the 2000's anime all had basically 1:1 character models. Movies and Animated on were the biggest changes to that