Why are the Transformers so horribly inaccurate?

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  1. Arrogant Arachnid

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    Do you know what dismissive means or are you just throwing it around cause someone else said it?
     
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    I see
     
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    Not only dismissive. But vague.
     
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    Thank god Travis Knight directed the critically acclaimed spin-off/reboot Bumblebee
     
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    You don't have to remind everyone it's critically acclaimed or it's a spin off/reboot. we know
     
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    Didn't see this edit and it's an older post plus this thread is dead but eh I feel like responding anyway.
    Look if you lot actually backed up your points by giving me examples, maybe then you'll actually convince me. Which didn't happen at all. Just because multiple people say it doesn't mean they're automatically right.
    I've had multiple people agree with me, they just aren't active in this thread.
    Also only guy calling me rude which is you
     
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    What is the meaning of this thread if you're going to shut down users that argue against your point? Really, why did you make this thread? To only hear and listen to people that agree with you so you can get validation?

    Like others have said, disagreeing is fine. The world would be boring if everyone agreed with each other. But you're not trying to listen to what others are saying, not even trying to give a counter-argument or have a discussion. You just keep being dismissive and ignore their points - So, why start a discussion if you're not willing to have one?
     
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    Judging by the example you gave you didn't bother to look at the context and just went with what everyone else was saying. So here, let me do that for you.

    "This is what ignoring another persons argument and continuing your own narrative after being proven wrong looks like."
    This was about the Spider-Man argument. The guy said Spider-Man is a bad comparison because Spider-Man is mostly the red and blue superhero man. Which isn't entirely true, so I listed some examples and I'm pretty sure I also said Soundwave's design is also the same most of the time. To which he basically just said the same thing again and really his argument boiled down to "You're wrong because I think you're wrong." I didn't see the point in giving a well thought out reply afterwards.

    But you are wrong.
    What's the issue here? All you have to do is add the full post I made instead of just taking one snip-it and you got all the clarity you need.

    That's nice you're trying to tell me that.
    Here's the thing, I don't care. I don't agree.
    This one for me makes me think you don't know context and don't bother to check. At this point I was arguing with a guy over his definition of character design. I felt that this had nothing to do with the main topic so I said I didn't care about what he thought character design was and was going with my (and as far as I know actual) definition. This isn't Twitter, right? This is TFW? Or do we also just ignore context here?

    And your examples sucked.
    Guy tried to give me examples to me being dismissive, I did the same thing I did here and that was that. They were bad examples, what of it.

    I'm starting to notice how much I have to spell things out here.
     
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    How kind of you. Can you pay for my dinner too? :2c: 

    This snippet perfectly shows how you're being dismissive. If you actually read his response you would understand his point and see that it isn't just "you're wrong because I think you're wrong".
    The funny thing is - he proved you wrong with a detailed and well thought out argument. THE Spider-Man (Peter Parker) has more or less looked the same since he was introduced, Soundwave has not. And yet you are the one who believes you proved HIM wrong?
    :lol  :lolol 

    Clarity is not the issue. Your response is, because @Jetstorm was not wrong in saying "Freaking nail on the head". What @AutobotAvalanche said in his post was a huge and fat nail on the head, and also in a way eye-opening to how character designs of the Bayverse are mostly treated unfairly compared to other character iterations in the franchise.

    You think the context will help you, but it won't. This is again a good example of you dismissing someone. It may not have been completely relevant to the main topic, but either way, an argument about the definition of "character design" was started. @KingMegatron632 did not only argue well and explain "his" definition, but he also did it in a respectful manner. And how did you argue against him?: "I don't care".

    You could've simply explained why your definition of "character design" is like it is and why you believe it to be so, same way he did. But you just said this:
    Which doesn't really tell much overall. If his post and definition wasn't relevant to the main topic, then why not just stop replying all together? Instead you keep replying to him with rude crap like "Doesn't really matter does it", "End of story", and "I don't care" just to shut him down:
    My point with this is - it's almost like you don't want to discuss with someone not sharing your view and opinion of something, in this case the definition of "character design".

    His examples were fine. Just because you dismissed them doesn't mean they sucked.


    I have read everything in this thread, your responses included. I know the context of your replies perfectly fine, so no need to try and "lecture" me on what was being said and why. You keep dismissing, ignoring, and twisting what people say.

    Now, stop stalling and let's try again - and don't dodge my question this time: why start a discussion if you're not willing to have one? That is all I have asked you, and that is all you need to answer. If you won't, then there is no need for either of us to keep talking to each other in this thread.
     
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    What a read this is, where to begin.

    Baby I'll buy you dinner anytime. Although I feel like I'm gonna have to go you an overly detailed explanation of every item on the menu

    Speaking of explanations

    1. Spider-Man thing
    Go on the TFwiki and you'll see a the major versions of Soundwave, 5 out of 6 of the major versions all have something in common. I'll let you figure out what. The Spider-Man example works. Just saying "Soundwave dont always look like dat" isn't enough to convince me otherwise, mate.
    Plus, THE Spider-Man is indeed Peter, but not every single Soundwave is THE Soundwave (G2 for example.)

    2. Nail on the head
    So in your mind a tiny minicon from Armada and a movie that made 700 million adaptation are on the same level. Alright, good for you. I don't agree, cause common sense exists.

    3. Character design
    So you want me to either go into a deep argument with a guy over his definition of something that doesn't matter or just ignore it? Honey I bet you 50 bucks if I ignored it you'd bitch about that instead.
    Besides, I was talking with the guy about something else before the character design thing, if I stopped replying we wouldn't go back to that topic, now would we?
    If you spend two seconds on Google to look up character design you'll find the definition pretty easily, I'm not gonna do that for you.
    My point is that this is a terrible example of "Dismissing" because it has nothing to do with this thread.

    4. "His examples were fine. Just because you dismissed them doesn't mean they sucked."
    I literally wrote a post addressing all of it.

    And yet, you still haven't given one good example of me doing any of that.

    why start a discussion if you're not willing to have one?
    I'm not gonna answer a question that doesn't apply to me. I'm more than willing to have one. And your examples of me not wanting to have one are terrible.
    You can accuse me all you want, but without actual arguments to support what you're saying you're not really getting anywhere.
    What I've learned about the movie forums so far is that overly long details are needed and anything needs to be addressed, not matter how much common sense can answer it.
     
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    Right. Your usual reply.
    Well, since you can't give me an answer there is no need to waste time here.
     
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