I wish. Defintely would like to see a OSKO version of that combiner. Preferably at a CHUG scale.

Sadly, Iron Factory's stuff doesn't often get knocked off.

zmog

 

There was that one super cheap KO of their Tarn that recently showed up. I've been hoping that's a sign of something better in the future.

 

Yes, the entire DJD in vibrant yellow/orange/bright purple color, all made of CTP (Chinese Toy Plastic), with little to no paint apps...

They will be good rivals to Galaxy Bee Defender of the Universe...


Also for those whom I inspired to collect Gaoda (KO FG Gunpla), use model clay to attach ball joints on this guy...

His orange plastic is almost GPS-level fragile. The pictured model has model clay in shoulders and is missing the skirt (peg broke).

 

Hahaha... I tend to screen those figures out of my brain. But hey, it means that some KO maker somewhere is at least referencing them, so... maybe?

zmog

 

It's sad, really. Upscaled enough, they'd make for great CHUG figures. Love IF's aesthetic, but a Legends collector I am not.

 

That's exactly where I am. I have enough different scales in my collection as it is. I'm not going near the "Legends-scale" market... especially since every company seems to have their own damn scale that's different from every other one.

zmog

 

I have to admit, I really like the designs of a lot of those 3P Legends-scale figures, but I'm not about to start a collection of them at the prices they're charging.

 

Sorry to be a n00b, but have there been any new G1 replica KOs since the Skullcruncher and Mindwipe Headmaster ones?

 

I honestly never cared about scale simply because I would forgo a lot of really good figures then. Scale also tends to favor the robot mode more than the vehicle mode. So the bots would match up, but then you would have a Pick up that’s half the size of a tank and all of the jets are always out of scale anyway.

 

Trying to debate if I need to get in on this flash sale or not. I've already spent way too much this month. :/

 

I don't know about anyone else, but scale helps me budget. If I bought every cool looking figure, I'd be broke by now lol.

 

That makes an assumption that scale as a criteria always favours some stupid cartoon size chart. In fact, the issue is more often exactly the opposite, unless you find a workable balance. I don't want my collection to be full of cars that look stupid next to each other.

And if scale creates that problem... then an absence of scale ALSO creates that problem, right?

Collecting by scale also means you still get to buy those cool figures... as long as they fit into at least ONE of your scale displays. So that enables a proliferation of collections, even!

This too. Exactly.

As a Transformers collector, my mantra cannot be "own every cool thing ever". That's just not sustainable, or even desirable... unless you have no life and no day job, and can spend all your time rotating the content on your shelves.  

Part of collecting is also inherently about imposing limits. Limits aren't always bad things. Boundaries help define things... even if they also create the possibility of transgression. I mean, speaking philosophically.  

zmog

 

UGH...THIS. Exactly THIS. I have an XTB Windcharger because I loved my toy of him as a kid and had a thing for the Trans Am when I was younger. But because they had to stick to the friggin scale and make him a mini bot, I've got a Trans Am that's half the size of a Fairlady Z. As a car buff, it drives me crazy when I have them in alt modes.

I started buying some of the Siege bots because I liked the Cybertronian alt modes. Then I bought a Thrilling 30 Springer because he looked really cool. Same happened for a few other bots, and next thin I know I've got an MP collection, a CHUG collection, and a shelf full of Primes and Springers. Shit happens, I guess. Now my issue isn't about disposable income, but rather about having a tiny ass house and running quickly out of shelf space

 

I was exactly thinking about XTB Windcharger when I wrote that.  

I mean, I could have just as easily been thinking about MP Bumblebee 1.0... in truth, both XTB Windcharger and MP BB currently live on my CHUG shelf, for both that reason and the fact that the "official" MP minibot scale fits my Classics shelf better in robot mode too. I mean, the vehicle scale of my Classics isn't perfect either, but I try to keep it within vaguely acceptable parameters.  

Yup.

yup, yup, yup... sigh

z

 

This is my thing. If I had my own personal line, designed just for me and only me, so I was the only person they were trying to please, Legends would be the base scale, with the cars being the size of the Legends figures (roughly, allowing for some cars being larger or smaller by a bit). This means the tanks, tractor trailers, jets, etc. would all be larger. Powerglide and Warpath would both be much bigger. I want them all in scale in vehicle/alt-mode, rather than bot-mode. This actually gives a much greater diversity of figures in bot mode, since you'll have some guys who tower over others (and some combiners would have to be redone completely, looking at you, Defensor). Others, such as Broadside, would be dumped completely because there's no way to make a toy of him that makes sense. Non-Earth vehicles (like Cosmos, Technobots, etc) would be scaled to be reasonable compared to the other vehicles. The only exception would be animals, such as the Predacons. To me, they were gigantic versions of the Earth animals they transformed into. They liked the animals and wanted to emulate them, rather than fit in in alt-mode.

I was as much into models as I was TFs as a kid, so scale was a big thing to me, even then. It bothered me that Beachcomber and Bumblebee were both teeny-tiny compared to Prowl or Jazz in vehicle mode. As a kid, I traded off figures like Soundwave and Blaster because they didn't make sense to me. My imagination just couldn't accept the size-shifting of the figures, even as I accepted alien robots from another world. The mass changing was just too much for me as a kid.

 

Hey you do you. I budget myself by not going above a certain price point for figures, even if I want them really badly.

There are really only a few exceptions to this that I was willing to do. Like with the Legacy Ultrazord, and even then I got it for less than half of the aftermarket price.

There are really very few Transformer figures I will not pay more than retail price for in all honesty.

 

I was just posting my reason for not following scale. I understand that a lot of collectors go for whatever will make their collection make sense for them.

For me, my collection is all about the nostalgia factor. I love messing with my figures and if it’s not a nice, sturdy figure that I can’t mess with over and over again; I’m going to get bored with it and sell it off. It’s why I don’t like Siege Starscream. He’s really cool looking and stuff, but his transformation doesn’t lend to the fun aspect of it. Not because it’s a shellformer, but because it’s the connections are wayyyyy too tight. I’m probably not going to get another tetrajet because of it.

 

I felt almost the same way, but I was a bit more flexible. Because I enjoyed the characters, I grudgingly accepted mass-shifting although I didn't like it. I always wanted versions of those figures (Megatron, Soundwave) with appropriate vehicle modes. When G2 Megatron first came out, I was like "hey, this makes sense finally!"

Happily, we're seeing more of that now.

I understand that. Many nostalgia collectors don't care about scale - it's more about the Transformer 'as object' first, and a self-consistent collection is secondary. The toy only really needs to be fun to handle and adequately symbolize the character you remember from childhood.

And of course, for most of us from the 80s, that's what our TFs were. G1 wasn't very good at doing scale, so our imaginations had to do the rest.

But... even then, I always wished for stuff that matched up better.

zmog

 

It's incomprehensible that nobody even did a voyager sized New Age Agememnon.
Maybe they'll upsize MS's Megatron.

 

Yes Model Patron Saint Set, end of August.