Netflix WfC Trilogy discussion thread

Discussion in 'Transformers Earthspark and Cartoon Discussion' started by Shackstoys, Feb 15, 2019.

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Will it be good?

  1. Yes!

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  2. No!

    115 vote(s)
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  3. I'm from the future and all who said yes were right!

    105 vote(s)
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  4. I'm from the future and all who said no were right!

    154 vote(s)
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  5. I'm from the future and there was never a Titan class Skorponok figure!! Please hastak!!!

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  1. AutobotAvalanche

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    Not only does it not disguise him but he proceeds to throw a Seeker like 500 feet through the air which isn't going to do wonders for his treatment from the Decepticons, regardless of his identity.
     
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    I'd argue it doesn't really have much style either. It's just blocky toy-like characters in a bleak, washed out world without much in the way of distinct locale.

    Like when they were walking through the streets discussing pre-war Cybertron, that would've been the perfect opportunity to show the ruins of exactly what existed. Show the shattered windows of a nearby cafe, empty Energon drinks and chairs still sat, soot-covered, from when the war quickly and savagely took away normal life. Show the interiors of ruined homes, destroyed monuments, places of work, anything to show that pre-war Cybertron wasn't just square, featureless buildings without anything in them. I know it'd require more assets, but those easily could've been matte paintings used in static or slow-pan shots. Even Beast Machines showed airfields and storage yards and office buildings and stuff, and that show is decades old now. Even the video games with their God-freaking-awful visual style for Cybertron showed hints at a working world before the ruin. The locales and set pieces actually depicted some kind of society.

    This show fails to establish the start of the conflict, and it fails to show the true ramifications of the conflict. The "War" in War for Cybertron is crucially under-developed for how often it's repeated.
     
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    Yeah honestly, I was being too generous. :lolol 
     
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    The one time this really stood out to me was the Soundblaster energon stealing scene. In G1, one of them would have transformed and the other would have loaded their alt mode up with energon. Here, one character grabs two "rocks" of energon, and then they go find a transport to carry them out of there, while trying to run away from others after them. You'd think it should be instinct for a Transformer to transform and drive off if under attack.
     
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    So little transforming on a Transformers show! I want to see robots changing into things! Makes me yearn for the stock transformation sequences of actual Japan-produced TF shows.

    It’s too bad this is such a dud. A Netflix TF series sounds wonderful in theory.
     
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    I made a video review for it.
    Over all 2.5/5. But did leave me wanting more.

    PRO TIP. use Japanese AUDIO with subtitles.

    WAAAAAAY BETTTER
     
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    I’m fine and all with changes and new ideas as long as they make sense/are an interesting new idea, but if you’re trying to make a “definitive” G1 representation, then wouldn’t you want to nail the characters and story elements? I’ve always hated the movies because of how much they’ve changed unnecessarily and misrepresented to the mainstream audience, so when we get a new show based on G1 I’d be hoping it gives people a better idea of what the original Transformers was. But so many changes were made that just don’t make any sense at all. Red Alert being a medic? Bumblebee being a dick who doesn’t care at all about the Autobots until he is forced to join them on their very last day on Cybertron? Impactor’s faction? Ultra Magnus, a character who is heavily associated with the later part of the G1 story, being killed off before the G1 story even starts? No human friends once they get to Earth? Optimus Prime being a poor leader who nobody respects and is voiced by any person other than Peter Cullen? The “Allspark” plot device which wasn’t even a thing until the 2007 movie? Doesn’t sound very definitive of G1 to me. At this point I’m surprised that their “definitive” G1 Bumblebee wasn’t a mute badass muscle car.
     
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  8. DecepticusPrime

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    So theres a surprise appearance in the last episode? Who and when?
     
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    Oh? I thought based on the mods early review that it wasnt so obvious
     
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    I translated the ending screen, not sure if anyone else did it already
    [​IMG]
     
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    And?
     
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    where the heck was Scrapface? did I blink and miss him???
     
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    Wasnt really there. I thought i saw one in the last episode that kinda looked like him but could have just been lighting. FWIW i think SS, Chromia, hound, and mirages dcon disguise should have been more prominent charecters or wave 1 should have been RA, Scrapface, impactor, ratchet, prowl/or barricade
     
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    Whoops, completely forgot Teletraan 1 says the same thing. (audio was off when I took the screencap)
     
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    Would Marvel UK, Sunbow or IDW1 Ultra Magnus have shot Megatron in the back if they were in that situation?
     
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    Perhaps the Nemesis
     
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    Omega can be SEEN peering over the building briefly as Optimus drives away. Another little set up for him. Its blink and you miss it and super obscured.
     
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    Just went back to see it and looked multiple times. I see nothing.
     
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    This was overall a disappointment. They didn\'t make this for fans, they made it for casual fans, the ones that remember transformers but not the details like we do. That would be fine if this was a brand new take like Animated, Beast Wars, or even Armada. Instead we get a retelling of the first 15 minutes of the MTMTE pilot with a bunch of elements from other Transformers media crammed in to bloat it to 6 episodes. We get attempts at character development like Prime being an inexperienced leader, but instead of embracing leadership after it\'s down to just him, he comes off as an incompetent weakling. If ALL your subordinates are telling you your idea is bad, maybe take step back and listen. 

    Then there\'s all the character mix-ups, Mirage is Hound, Hound is Ironhide, Ironhide is a generic nobody. Why would you change these guys up? If Hound wasn\'t in the show if understand goving mirage his powers. But you have Hound .... Give him his bloody hologram powers, have him use them to make Mirage look like a con, and they mess it up, it could\'ve been a funny scene adding some much needed lighter moments, instead nothing. 

    If you wanted to make your mark and really do something new with characters, you had Cog, Spinister, and Skytread. 3 characters with little to no history. Develop them anyway you want. Instead they got slapped with generic voice number 3 5 and 7 and called it a day. Heck Skytread and Spinister never even transform!  

    I really hope they take the apparent success of this, and pay someone to consult or at least edit the scripts for Earthrise, because if you have the casuals buy in, then why not spend a few more dollars to polish the script for the fans too. 
     
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