WfC:III Kingdom Speculation Thread

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by barry, Jul 17, 2020.

  1. Smitty.1981

    Smitty.1981 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, now mix the two.

    You got Dinozaurs in my Bone Age!

    You got Bone Age in my Dinozaurs!

    Transformers War for Cybertron: Kingdom!
     
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  2. Duke spino

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    M. Perhaps it's because I'm a bit impatient. Regarding dinozaurs, rhey always looked good. Its a shame that they haven't done anything else since. I for one, would've liked a current commander brachial. Just imagine
     
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    If they make a cool narrative I just might MAYBE buy into some of the Beast Wars stuff. Maybe. Mostly just hoping Metroplex is John Warden's legacy Titan and we get some other baseformers somewhere.

    I really 100% believed WFC 3 would be a grand finale blowing out G1 and then being done with it. So I sorta am annoyed.....but now also curious if they are planning on keeping what WFC started alive AFTER Kingdom??? Idk. This is interesting.

    Tracks and Blaster hopefully make an appearance somewhere.
     
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  4. Calabask

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    See, I'm not sure how I'd feel about the ark transforming into a robot. I'm fond of the idea of a playset and modulator stuff, but I also have a feeling a playset wouldn't be something Hasbro would take a chance on and would probably do via a crowdfund. Maybe I'm wrong though. I mean, I'll get it either way, robot or no Robot. No Transformer goes uncollected!
     
  5. Hobbes-timus Prime

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    I'm hoping they make use of the Core class to give us Shrapnel, Bombshell, and Kickback. I like the figures we got in Thrilling 30, CW, and TR but would really love to have a set in a more unified deco. And the insect modes would seem to tie into the theme well.
     
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    Core
    Wave 1
    • Rattrap
    • Optimus Prime
    • Fossilizer #1
    Wave 2
    • G1 Megatron
    • Waspinator
    • Fossilizer #2
    Wave 3
    • Gears
    • Huffer
    • Fossilizer #3 (Decepticon/Autobot/Maximal/Predacon version of the first guy)
    Wave 4
    • Packrat (Repaint of Rattrap)
    • Fossilizer #4 (deco of the second guy?)
    Deluxe
    Wave 1
    • Cheetor
    • Blackarachnia
    • Tracks
    • Airazor
    Wave 2
    • Terrorsaur
    • BW Scorponok
    • Bumblebee (redeco of the Earthrise one)
    Wave 3
    • Elita-1 (redeco of the Earthrise one)
    • Tigatron (Repaint/retool of Cheetor)
    • Crashbash
    Wave 4
    • Tarantulas (Repaint/retool of Blackarachnia)
    • Skids
    Voyager
    Wave 1
    • Optimus Primal
    • G1 Inferno
    Wave 2
    • Dinobot
    Wave 3
    • Rhinox
    • Sandstorm
    Wave 4
    • Octone
    Leader
    Wave 1
    • BW Megatron
    • Rodimus Prime w/ Trailer
    Wave 2
    • Snarl (If Studio Series 86 didn't including him in the line)
    Commander
    Boardside

    Titan
    New Metroplex or Ark

    Exclusives
    Wal-Mart
    • Nightprowler (Tigatron repaint/retool) vs Fangry (Crashbash redeco/retool)
    • Roadrage (Tracks repaint/retool) vs Predacon Inferno (Waspinator redeco/retool)
    Target
    • Autobot Repair Crew - Swerve (Gears repaint/retool) and Pipes (Huffer repaint/retool)
    • Maximal Battle Squad - Apelinq (Optimus Primal repaint/retool) and Backstop (Rhinox repaint/retool)
    • Predacon Strike Force - Shadow Panther (Cheetor repaint/retool) and Barricade (Tigatron repaint; Based on the orange Tigatron prototype colors)
    • Decepticon Hunting Party - Terri-Bull (Crashbash repaint/retool) and Loudpedal (Tracks repaint/retool)
    Hasbro Pulse
    • Predacon Rhinox (Maximal Rhinox repaint)
    • Predacon Nightbird (Airazor repaint/retool)
    • Vok-Power Blackarachnia (Silver redeco of Blackarachnia)
    • Crosscut (Skids repaint/redeco)
    Amazon
    • Dinobots United - Terranotron (Terrorsaur redeco), BW Grimlock (Dinobot redeco/retool), and T-Wrecks (BW Megatron redeco/repaint)
    • War For Cybertron Siege - Needlenose (Siege Seekers repaint/retool) with Sunbeam (Firedrive redeco) and Zputty (Blowpipe redeco)
    • War For Cybertron Earthrise - Bumper (Earthrise Cliffjumper redeco/repaint)
    • War For Cybertron Kingdom - BW Lazorbeak (Terrasaur repaint/retool)
     
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  7. jojo1982

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    Mines would be
    Wave 1
    Deluxe
    1. Rattrap
    2. Cheetor
    3. Powerglider
    4. Lockdown
    Voyager class
    1. Optimus Primal
    2. Roadbuster
    Leader class
    1. Megatron
    2. Rodimus Prime
    Wave 2
    Deluxe
    1. Blackarachina
    2. Tracks
    3. Waspinator
    4. Goldbug
    Voyager class
    1. Rhinox
    2. Dinobot
    Leader class
    1. Vector Prime
    Wave 3
    1. Scorponok
    2. Seaspray
    3. Tigatron
    4. Windblade
    Voyager class
    1. Black Arachnid
    2. Slipstream
    Commander class
    1. Tidal Wave
    Titan class
    1. Metroplex
    Wave 4
    Deluxe
    1. Terrorsaur
    2. Airrazor
    3. Windcharger
    4. Cosmos
    Voyager
    1. Octane
    Leader class
    1. Thunderwing

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    1. Optimus Prime(Bat)
    2. Megatron(Alligator)

    Exclusive
    1. G1 Inferno

    Exclusive 2 pack
    1. Pipes
    2. Huffer

    Exclusive 3 pack
    1. Sideswipe
    2. Hound
    3. Mirage
     
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  8. LongarmMagnus

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    So "fossilators" are the new weaponizers?... i'll take a fossilator Waspinator.
     
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    I'm positive the Fossilizers won't literally be bones. Bones are curved, so it'd be throwing away compatibility with the vast majority of WFC bots, which are generally more rectangular. It sacrifices the play pattern they've followed the past two years.
    Weaponizers and Modulators were also based on pre-existing Transformers, so making them all OCs just makes no sense.

    It feels like we're all just latching onto the word "fossil" and taking it literally.

    Victory Leo is a sabertooth. Legout and Decibel contain dinosaur components (Dile/Zaur and Graphy/Noise). These are your Fossilizers, I would bet money on it. They're modular beast-formers that attach on to other characters, and each other. It fits the play pattern, and the altmodes satisfy the "fossil" requirement.
     
  10. RodimusRex

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    If Victory Leo is a Deluxe, Star Saber is likely a Voyager (think about weight/engineering/scale -- also Brainmaster is likely to be Titan Master) and Deathsaurus is probably modern Leader sized.
     
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    That could work.
    I've seen digibashes where Star Saber was based on Apeface, and Deathsaurus on Doubledealer.

    I mean, there's also the possibility that since it's the last part of the trilogy, they'll go out with a bang, and add Fossilizers to every size class. The leaks have said there's Core and Deluxe Fossilizers, so why not Voyager ones too?
     
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  12. Bob Schoonover

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    A thought: what if core class Megatron and Optimus are prewar versions of the characters as part of the time travel plot. You try to go back and stop the war and end up traveling to BW time with Megs and OP.
     
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    Bone armor Optimus Prime and Optimus Primal does sound like a pretty badass toy tho.
     
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    Wave 1
    Deluxe
    1. Rattrap
    2. Cheetor
    3. Sureshot
    4. Pointblank
    Voyager class
    1. Optimus Primal
    2. Quickmix with Boomer and Richochet
    Leader class
    1. BW Megatron
    2. Dreadwind
    Wave 2
    Deluxe
    1. Blackarachina
    2. Windsweeper
    3. Waspinator
    4. Backstreet
    Voyager class
    1. Rhinox
    2. Landfill with Flintlock and Silencer
    Leader class
    1. Dinobot
    Wave 3
    1. Scorponok
    2. Dogfight
    3. BW Quickstrike
    4. Override
    Voyager class
    1. Quake with Tiptop and Heater
    2. Scoop with Holepunch and Tracer
    Commander class
    1. Deathaurus
    Titan class
    1. Tidal Wave
    Wave 4
    Deluxe
    1. Terrorsaur
    2. BW Silverbolt
    3. Ruckus
    4. Crankcase
    Voyager
    1. Needlenose with Sunbeam and Zigzag
    Leader class
    1. Darkwing

    Exclusive Valentine's day 2 pack Beast Wars
    1. Tigatron
    2. Airrazor

    Exclusive
    1. G1 Inferno

    Exclusive 2 pack
    1. Tracks
    2. Punch/Counterpunch

    Exclusive 3 pack
    1. Slapdash
    2. Joyride
    3. Getaway
     
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    Monstructor / Pretender monsters

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    But also guys like;
    Fangry/Wilder/
    Catilla
    Carnivac
    Snarler
    Chainclaw
     
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    I'd love see pretenders properly revisited, the beastly ones would be perfect for Kingdom. I also have my fingers crossed for pretender shells in the R.E.D. line.
     
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    I mean, leaders are essentially heavy Voyagers already now
     
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    To all those lists people have posted, I dont see any fossilizers. There should be one fossilizer per wave. Similar to modulators and weaponizers.
     
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    If I’m being honest, just seeing Beast Wars back in the mainstream line at all was enough for me. I don’t care WHO they put in, I want everybody on that image. Especially Galvatron and (hopefully) that Armada Prime we’ve seen. Just gimmie, gimmie, gimmie.

    I’m really more interested in the story and how the heck we got here. Galvatron meeting BW Megatron is intriguing as hell as I don’t think they’re going to get along....at all.
     
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    My gut tells me Kingdom will be S1 meets G1.

    Fossilizers will be guys like Catilla, Chainclaw, Carnivac. The idea will be they can wrap around Core figures to give them new bodies like pretenders, and they'll have organic elements that let G1 figures have beast elements.

    I also think BW Megatron is going to have removable armor, similar to his MP. This will let other figures hold his claw or hip missiles.

    BW was known for how it integrated weapons in alt mode. I think this may go one step further, and larger figures will be able to remove certain beast kibble to provide weapons for other figures. It will *not* lead to partsforming.

    Rodimus is the wildcard. I think he'll be a Siege-like Leader. A space Winnebago who's trailer breaks down into armor for his G1 bot mode. But it's hard to know if he'd be armored up in to Rodimus or if he'd be Rodimus as a core robot and the armor would be something more.

    I also think we'll see a poll for which G1 character we want to see get a beast mode. This poll may also go as far as to let us pick their alt.

    Transmetals and Fuzors aren't going to be ignored, but I think those will be in the next chapter of Generations. Like, Kingdom ends with Primal taking on the Matrix and the PotP poll finally comes true.

    Because I think the trick is to get BW re-established with Kingdom, and then there's a deep pool of figures named after G1 guys that they could alongside S2/3 cast members.

    I also believe both Prime and Megatron will get beast modes. If not Kingdom, shortly after. Like, if Megatron becomes Galvatron in this chapter, it sets up HasTak to have him become BWII Galvatron shortly thereafter. If I'm Hasbro, I hope Takara is okay with me marketing Lioconvoy as Prime's new alt.
     
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