Hasbro Trios

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  1. Funky Munky

    Funky Munky G.I. Formers & Trans-Joe

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    Looks to me like Christy Marx could have created the original Seekers as well.
     

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  2. Nevermore

    Nevermore It's self-perpetuating a parahumanoidarianised!

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    Aha
     
  3. Novaburnhilde

    Novaburnhilde born-again First Churcher

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    I get what's being attempted here, but the connections are flimsy at best.

    It amuses me that both Skywarp and Roxy are just labeled as "Mean and un-intelligent". :lol 
     
  4. Funky Munky

    Funky Munky G.I. Formers & Trans-Joe

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    Sky- tech spec should not have had 9 intelligence.
    Roxy- the episode where she couldn't read- seemed low-intelligence to me.
     
  5. Primeultra

    Primeultra Well-Known Member

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    It’s pretty well believed that Skywarps tech spec was swapped with Starscreams

    I mean Forget the intelligence issue and just look at the rank.....how is Starscream their leader and has a rank of 5 and Skywarp a 9?

    They messed up the print in my opinion
     
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  6. Funky Munky

    Funky Munky G.I. Formers & Trans-Joe

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    Bah, if things went my way, Sky and Rumble would have strengths of ten and be Meg's right and left hand minions.
     
  7. Primeultra

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    So you feel the solution to uncharacteristic issues is to present the characters in a “less in character” fashion?
     
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  8. WishfulThinking

    WishfulThinking The world has moved on...we've always said.

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    Even then, the Intelligence would still be a 7. That's not "stupid". He would need a spec of 1-4 to be considered less than average intelligence.
     
  9. Applejacktimus

    Applejacktimus Still see the Sunshine

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    I bet.
     
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  10. Primeultra

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    Well I don’t think they really intended for him to be stupid when they wrote the bio
     
  11. Longitudinalwave

    Longitudinalwave A Big Fan of (Sound/Shock)wave

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    "Skywarp is the sneakiest of the Decepticons. On Cybertron he was known to appear out of nowhere in the middle of peaceful Autobot villages to rain terror and destruction upon them, if the mood hit him. He'll even use his teleportation powers to play a prank on a fellow Decepticon. Everyone enjoys this except the butt of his joke since Skywarp's sense of humor tends to be rather cruel and physically abusive. Skywarp isn't too smart and would be totally useless without the supervision of Megatron....Skywarp's control of the accuracy of his teleportation power diminishes as the distance he teleports increases. As a result, if he's not too careful, he's likely to crash into things when he arrives at where he's teleporting. Not being too bright doesn't help him avoid these accidents either."
    This is from the extended Transformers Universe bio, but the bio on his toy also states that he is, quote, "Not too smart". While this doesn't necessarily mean "stupid", he is the only one of the three original Seekers who is specifically noted as lacking intelligence.
    The Tech Specs that came with Thundercracker's toy show an Intelligence score of 4. Since Thundercracker is never mentioned as lacking intelligence, and Skywarp is, it seems that the Seeker Tech Spec swap involved all three characters. Skywarp's tech specs, with the Rank and Intelligence of 9, belong to Starscream (the rank is the obvious giveaway here.) Thundercracker's tech specs belong to Skywarp (since the Intelligence of 4 is the lowest of the three tech specs, matching Skywarp's mentioned intellectual deficits), and Starscream's tech specs, with an Intelligence score of 7, therefore belong to Thundercracker, not Skywarp.

    Here's the bio:
    Transformers Universe Original Archive
     
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  12. Funky Munky

    Funky Munky G.I. Formers & Trans-Joe

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    Why not? With all these new generations of writers (from ours, to even younger than us) anything is everything, from Blast Off becoming a shuttle to a plane, to Michael Bay's story, who knows what derivative will occur next.
     
  13. Primeultra

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    seems to me This indicates more than a simple printing mistake
    So you want everybody to stoop to the level of Michael Bay?

    Even though it’s not likely to happen when we voice our opinions here we should at least be hoping for them to do better not worse
     
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    Longitudinalwave A Big Fan of (Sound/Shock)wave

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    I don't know how the "Seeker Swap" happened, but you're right; it couldn't have just been a printing mistake. Maybe there was some sort of communications mix-up regarding which bios and which tech specs were meant for which character, or maybe Budiansky himself was originally intending for Thundercracker to be the unintelligent one and then changed his mind but forgot to change the tech specs.
    Although how nobody caught the fact that Starscream had the wrong tech specs is probably the weirdest part. That being said, Jim Shooter's writeup for the series featured the name "Ulcthar" (apparently Denny O'Neil's name for the character) crossed out and replaced with Starscream and attached to a bio that's really similar to the one that would eventually be applied to Thundercracker, so clearly there was clearly a lot going on behind the scenes involving the characterization of the Seekers.
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    The picture is from TFWiki.
     
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  15. Primeultra

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    Well I always thought they wanted the jets leader to be the blue jet.... what ever name they gave him
     
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  16. Funky Munky

    Funky Munky G.I. Formers & Trans-Joe

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    Too late for that- people gave into the Bay movies and Hasbro now does whatever they want because the TF crowds will do anything for 'formers. Same with G.I. Joe.

    That's why the Jem movie flopped and toys are no longer being produced by Hasbro: Jem fans stood up for themselves by boycotting the John Chu live movie even before its release simply because it was NOT Christy Marx: Jem and the Holograms Creator Christy Marx Will Not Be Involved In The Movie Reboot
     
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    It’s never too late to hope for something better

    Even if you didn’t like it, there no denying Bumblebee was certainly a step in the right direction, if only for stepping away from Bay