Paramount Shake-Up: Emma Watts Resigns, New Heads For Transformers Movies

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by SilverOptimus, Jul 1, 2020.

  1. Feralstorm

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    At first glance I saw:

    "Emma wants to oversee Transformers..."

    and I thought 'That's great, Who doesn't? '
     
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  2. Moos Crew

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    Thanks for being rude with the attitude, Pleasure to meet you too..

    if you think Transformers is a series solely FOCUSED on children you are mistaken.

    Hasbro and License holders ultimately want one thing...MONEY. Hasbro is not your friend, they want money and they will do their best to cast as big of a net as possible.

    Get kids to Want the toys from any appropriate Generation so their parents will buy them. Get g1 audience nostalgia tickled so they will buy toys/statues/merch for themselves and THEIR kids...Sell nicer version of toys from the bay movies to generations that grew up watching those (teens at the time) in the studio series lines.

    Transformers is a WIDE age spectrum of targeted material. If this franchise was introduced to you only at a children’s level good for you I suppose, but there is much more to this Brand.

    Transformers media:
    Comics - The comics are obviously targeted at least and older audience.
    Not including the Crossover with child friendly franchises e.g little pony. There are crossover comics with Terminators on the opposite side of the age spectrum...

    Video Games:
    Mobile-
    Cutesy Mobile games like rescue bots for CHILDREN...
    RID 2015 mobile games for Older Children.
    PC/Console -
    Transformers Devastation. Older to Teens.
    Transformers War for/fall of Cybertron trilogy ..OLDER teens.
    New “mobile” looking game for consoles...lol Probably younger/preteen.

    Live Action Movies - almost all of these marketed at teens. Bumblebee being the exception, but still at an older age range for kids.

    Cartoons
    Varies between pre schoolers
    (rescue bots), to children/older (G1/RID 2015) and Teen/Older (Prime/Beast Wars & Machines)
    The G1 movie literally killed off the majority of the cast...some In brutal ways to sell new toys none the less haha

    Toys
    Rescue bots and other easy transform or static non transforming figures...USUALLY marketed at young children.

    cyberverse/botbots marketed at older children/preteens.

    Generations line marketed at older kids and Teens. More complex transformations and easier to break.

    Masterpiece - marketed to older teen and adults.

    It’s ok to have a different opinion but there is no need to be rude about it.
     
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    90 percent of these people i cant stand
     
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    Most of us were kids when we first discovered it. You can still love something for kids and be an adult. That's the reason many of us here.

    Hey, you're the one who thinks that a kid's franchise catering to its target demographic is inherently bad. Which is utterly ridiculous. And it seemed that not everyone was pleased about Bay's brand of humor in the movies.

    It'd be like adult fans of Barbie demanding the next movie should play out like Stepford Wives or Mean Girls or something, because they think Barbie should only be for grown-ups.

    I find it interesting that you're accusing me of being narrow-minded when you're of the mind that kids stuff shouldn't cater to them. Because whether you like it or not, it started as a kid's brand, and it still is one to this day. Kid and adult collectors are just cash in Hasbro's bank account.
     
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    For people of all ages which include kids, yes...

    I didn't say anything really positive about the Bay movie's humor....not sure what that's about.
    "kid's franchise"
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    You aren't listening are you?
    I DID say "I don't think making Transformers Cinematic movies target Audience for under 13 is a good idea..." Which is my opinion :) 

    Point is. Transformers is not just for pre-teens.
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  6. WishfulThinking

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    All of that was made for kids. Yes, even a dissolving Optimus was written for kids to come into a store and purchase a Generation 2 comic. Comics just get away with more since they dropped the comic approval code. Cartoons are still subject to censors. Movies cast the widest net, hence fart jokes intertwined with Optimus taking faces.
     
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  7. Moos Crew

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    Maybe we have different opinions of “kids”, sounds like you are saying under the age of 18 then you are correct.
    Our original debate was “children”/Pre teenagers.

    War for Cybertron games “RATED T FOR TEENS”
    Michael bay movies rated PG-13

    in the end it’s all a ploy to make Hasbro as much money by selling toys/merch to Kids of all ages and marketing to nostalgia of the parents.

    I am hoping the next movies have more exciting battles and deeper story than the previous entries.

    :) 
     
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  8. WishfulThinking

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    Nope, ratings don't mean crap. The games and movies were meant as much for 7 year olds as they were for 47. Or else these wouldn't exist.
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    I disagree :) 

    parents buy toys not kids, parents have the money.

    kids don’t usually work and earn money, child labor laws and all that.....

    ratings do “mean crap”, otherwise we wouldn’t have them.

    ESRB is supposed to rate as a guidance for parents, if parents buy a 5 year old a game developed and marketed for teens that is on the parent.

    just BECAUSE a toy from a media that was marketed for an older audience exists it doesn’t mean that the original movie was marketed for that age range.

    You can sell a design without having to sell the relevant media that introduced the design.
     
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    I'm not sure what your point or argument is, but yeah, I think it was dangerous and wrong for Hasbro and Paramount to market the live action films to minors. It stinks, and I hold those parties and the MPA accountable.
    But Joe six-pack doesn't care. You probably don't.
    Are you arguing that those five films and accompanying merchandise wasn't marketed to all ages?
     
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    He looks like a parakeet
     
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    It's okay TFW2005 peoples are an acquired taste you'll get used to them..............................eventually.
     
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  14. WishfulThinking

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    Sure it was marketed to all ages. But mostly to children. And more so to boys ages 7-12.
     
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    The thing is Transformers can simultaneously appeal to both. That's what Beast Wars and Machines were.

    There were heavy things and high stakes, but it wasn't graphic. Transmutate was an emotional episode with a tragic ending, but it didn't go about it in a way that younger kids would be turned off by.

    That's how kids shows should work. You serve up things that can happen in life in ways that are easier to grasp and digest for audiences who don't have a frame of reference yet. It also lets them practice those emotions (for lack of a better word) in a safe environment where they know ultimately it isn't real.

    Death is a big one. It's probably why Optimus Prime's hit kids so hard. For many it may have been the first "loss" they'd experienced of that nature. I know Code of Hero came before anyone I knew passed away. And that would have been as a preteen.
     
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    Kay...so I think you just proved my and the other guys' point: though the material was entirely inappropriate for grade schoolers (the first movie was initially given an R rating by the board until Spielberg stuck his big fat nose in), Hasbro and Paramount marketed the film and toys to all ages.
    Every studio and toy manufacturer that are in bed together do it, and it's socially irresponsible.
    Burn, Hollywood, burn.
    The world will be a better place when that filthy metropolis slides into the ocean.
    See you in Arizona Bay
     
  17. WishfulThinking

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    My point is that ALL Transformers media is aimed at selling toys to kids. I really don't care if you like that fact or not.
     
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    Makin' friends!

    You're a peach.

    You're probably mostly right. Those Netflix and Prime Wars Trilogy, probably not. I don't hate myself enough to have watched them, but it seems like they were aimed squarely at adult nerds.

    I'm not certain that's what was being argued about, but I, too, have lost interest.
     
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    Correct Hasbro wants your money, and will do their best to get people of all age ranges to buy their toys.
     
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    Elmer Fudd will bring back Murder Prime! More guns, more wabbitcons to hunt
     
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