And the best picture Oscar might just go to … Transformers: Age of Extinction

Not many people on here like AOE, am I right? And, given that the film survived because it pandered to China, and in most other markets, it was beaten by Dawn of the Planet of the Apes and How To Train Your Dragon 2, to an extent, audiences didn't either.

However, hilariously, Paramount seemed confident enough in the film to submit it for consideration for 12 Oscars - including the film for best picture and Michael Bay for Best Director. Didn't make any of the categories, but it was a nice gesture.

Now, I've often thought that the general public should be allowed to vote on what films should get nominated for, and which films should win, Oscars. If that was the case, the awards would reflect what films audiences like to see, rather than what films the professionally pretentious put on a false plinth. For instance, the Desolation of Smaug is leagues better than 12 Years A Slave - yet it didn't get one nom.

However, I doubt if that was the case, AOE would have won Best Picture anyway - it probably would have been nominated, but more likely, the winner would be Guardians of the Galaxy, competing against AOE, Godzilla, Captain America: The Winter Soldier and Dawn of the Planet of The Apes.

However, I do think, in this scenario, the 2007 film and Dark of the Moon would have gotten Best Picture - or at least had a good chance of it. ROTF and TLK, I doubt - TLK would probably lose to Wonder Woman and ROTF would probably lose to Avatar.

But, seriously, wouldn't that be fun?

 

Transformers: Age Of Extinction - For Your Consideration Sheet - Transformers News - TFW2005

Old news.

 

Ah - I wasn't aware this had been already commented on.

 

wtf    

 

That's cute.

 

Watched aoe recently. Underrated. Bold in a lot of ways. A ton of interesting ideas with tremendous potential.

We never got a sequel to it sadly.

 

I can at least understand people trying to defend the bay movies as “not that awful” but to say that Age of Extinction should win best picture? Zoinks.

 

... Yeah. It's so underrated, man. Bold in how it sucks up to the CCP and portrays Optimus Prime as a chemically unbalanced lunatic. So many interesting and amazing ideas like turning Megatron into an entirely new character named GALVATRON, that's never been done before. Nor has there been a story where the Autobots and humans were on opposing sides of a conflict, so much hidden potential. Nor has the idea of human-built Transformers ever been explored, never. Age of Extinction was a pioneer in Transformers fiction.

It's heartbreaking we never got a sequel to this amazing film, The Last Knight? Doesn't count.

Or how the dirty-looking douchebag who hates Transformers and wants to kill them is totally fine working with one of them (Lockdown) for some reason. Why can't more people appreciate this amazing work of fiction?!

 

While those things have happened before in the brand, I would say it's a novel mixture of concepts and characters. That is not nothing.

Also, I would say the idea that Transformers were made of a programmable metal is a great one. It goes well with both the origins of Transformers as well as explaining many things about Transformers that otherwise wouldn't make sense. Plus, the KSI cube transformations are visually cool, and this movie, like the others, is filled with cool, Shrektastic moments visually. There's nothing wrong with enjoying a Transformers movie for insane and awesome moments!

While The Last Knight is a sequel to Age of Extinction, I think they meant a film that focused more on continuing the threads from AoE rather than introducing brand new ones while minimizing AoE's threads.

It's like the most vocal haters here have never watched the movies, and, like a nest of sea birds being fed regurgitated fish or squid by its mother, eat up the putrid vomit fed to them with glee without even thinking about where the bullcrap they spout even came from.

Attinger worked with Lockdown, because they both saw the AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS and their WAR as a blight. Lockdown was a Transformer who was NEITHER. He didn't care much for humans at all and had no interest in Earth beyond just doing his job.

It's really not that hard to grasp.

I think the people who enjoy it, myself included, don't enjoy it for being this all-time cinematic masterpiece that NO piece of Transformers fiction is or ever has been, but for being a fourth live action Transformers movie with fun, exciting, and goofy moments (but also some more serious and heartfelt ones). It's not perfect...but it is underrated for a live action Transformers movie and as a piece of fiction within the brand.

The Bay movies aren't perfect, but they aren't out of line with what live action Transformers realistically would be. Yeah, none of them may be the types of films that win Oscars for best picture, but if studios want to promote their movies, let them. Studios would much rather have the most profitable movie of 2014 (AoE) over a Best Picture Oscar winner or nominee.

 

Or he was just your stereotypical evil authority figure - a blithering hypocrite. He's so blind in his genocidal mission against Transformers he's okay with working with one to get it.

Watching AOE for the first time 6 years ago I was pretty sure Attinger would've had Lockdown killed after he was done hunting the Transformers (like what John Cena planned to do with Shatter & Dropkick), but the script's the script and he didn't for some reason.

 

While I do agree Attinger was a hypocrite in some regards, there is ZERO indication of the bold from the film itself. Attinger, while having no problem if his allies were harming or threatening civilians to defend the country (like a hypocrite), never shows any indication he would have betrayed Lockdown. Not even when he's talking with other humans without Lockdown around.

It's undeniable from watching the film that their shared hatred of the Autobots and Decepticons, and resulting alliance, was due to the war and its affects on Earth for Attinger and on the universe for Lockdown. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend," AKA Lockdown is enemies with BOTH Autobots and Decepticons, even if he is a Transformer. It was the Autobots and Decepticons who were warring on Earth and not neutral bounty hunter Transformers.

 

That was exactly why I said "pretty sure". It was just a plot point/premise I thought seemed like something the script would do that ultimately didn't happen.

Imagine the irony when the hunter becomes the hunted.

 

Hilarious

 

And there's nothing wrong with wanting something to happen in a movie, although just because we want something to happen in a movie, it doesn't mean it will, nor does it mean it should. And, unironically, I often enjoy things when movies do things differently than I envision. It can be fun seeing a direction or vision that's differently from my own.

 

Not in the case with TF5.

 

I don't even dislike Transformers 5, nor do I have a problem with the movie changing directions in of itself. Some of the additions in The Last Knight are nice: Daytrader, French Hot Rod, and some others. It's more that the changes from its predecessor weren't shown or explained.

For example, I have no problem with Galvatron becoming Megatron in of itself, and if they showed or explained the transition from Galvatron to Megatron, that would have been fine. It's just that all four of the previous movies showed how Megatron was updated in them or showed them in their previous state, but TLK ignores Galvatron and makes no attmept to show or explain the transition or how he met Quintessa.

 

Not sure why we're arguing about the movies in general in this thread.

 

It's AOE and the Bayverse. Of course, there's arguments.

 

For whatever reason - maybe because they can't stand someone actually thinking the movies are good or because they have nothing better to do (probably both); whenever anyone even remotely mentions anything positive about the Bay movies - there is a specific group of individuals on these boards that love to jump in and argue, and it always transforms ( ) the thread into the same pointless debate between the ones who defend the Bayverse and the ones who don't - same arguments from both sides every time and all. The defending side obviously jumps in and argues when someone hates on the movies as well, but they don't seem to attack the other user as much for their personal preferences, and they don't go in as hard either - just my observation. Oh well, at least it's fun to read the chaos I guess, even if it's the same crap every time  .