Except they aren't due to various discrepancies, both visual and story wise. The games and prime have similar discrepancies as the bumblebee movie and bay movies, meaning they really don't fit together. One instance being trypticon being the nemesis in the games but the show runner of prime saying that wasn't the case in the show

 

It is an example, I said it may or may not. The important thing is that AVP isn't deciding whether or not they are different universes.

 

I've never really gotten too into the concept of universal streams. It's neat (I had quite a bit of fun going down that rabbit hole yesterday), but I'm generally more concerned with things from an out-of-universe/storytelling perspective rather than in-universe timelines and whatnot.

But I'm really glad that according to canon, War for Cybertron exists in a G1 continuity too. The idea of WFC being part of Aligned always bugged me a bit. It's clearly supposed to be a love letter to G1, I feel like it's closer to something like the IDW comics than Prime or RID2015. It would be more at home in a G1 "continuity family". I always felt like shoehorning it into the Aligned continuity was just more of a marketing thing, and wouldn't have happened if they weren't pushing Aligned so hard at the time. Especially since the game's creators seemed to consider it a G1 prequel. I'm fine with it existing in Aligned, but it's cool that canonically it exists in both timelines. That's a nice way to reconcile everything.

 

Oh they didn't forget, and it was never going to be part of flying mind. The show runner was adamant that the nemesis was never planned to be trypticon in the show

 

Eh, this is also the guy that claims to have rewritten all 3 of the aligned novels at the last minute despite not being credited as such (at least according to tfwiki). In addition to that, he wasn't part of the team that was running Transformers Prime (Roberto Orci, Alex Kurtzman, Jeff Kline, Duane Capizzi), he was an IP development manager for hasbro, so his claims that trypticon were planned for the show are kind of suspect. It's well known that the showrunners constantly bucked against hasbro and the binder of revelation (which Rik Alvarez had a hand in creating), so him saying they "forgot" is more that the showrunners decided to ignore him. Also that concept art was made after the fact

 

It's not the first time show runners ingored hasbro, just look at the fiasco of galaxy force. Hasbro contracted takara to contract a studio to make a sequel to energon, takara then ignored hasbro and contracted gonzo to do their own thing, which is why hasbro had to scramble and try to patch the continuity for cybertron.

 

The “concept art” of prime trypticon was made after the show for an art book, not during production of the show, so it’s not legitimate concept art, least that’s the story I remember from back when it first surfaced. The wiki isn’t really reliable on some of these things because there’s several pages with contradictory information (on the 2010 trypticon page it says the art was made for flying mind, however I’ve also read that the art was specifically made for Transformers:The Art of Prime)

 

As I said, those are seperate streams but that doesn't necessarily mean they are different universes just because they are different streams.

Not that I'm saying they are necessarily the same universe but them having different streams doesn't necessarily confirm that they are different realities.

 

And this RIGHT HERE is the moment you knew they were talking out their ass and that the respective media didn't line up. This was Archer's baby, right? Aligned was his big thing, if memory serves.

 

I thought this was post Archer and Rik Alvarez was the one in the captain's chair?

 

If so, my lack of faith in Archer's decision making may lessen.

 

Want the discrepancies between HMS' WfC and TF: Prime explained?

Simple, they're not the same continuity (fuck that Alignment bullshit. It was all whacked to start off with). They really have nothing to do with each other.

 

I love what this continuity has to offer but it's simply too all over the place. The Covenant of Primus tried to piece things together but unfortunately there's still a whole lot of plot holes everywhere. Dark Energon being the biggest one. Dark Energon was a huge thing in the war in the books and games - then everyone just kinds of forgets about it in Prime? Also what the hell was the thing about flying Autobots not being a thing?

I love Prime but... I can't enjoy it as a continuation from the games or books. Sucks because High Moon actually seemed keen on having their games fit within the timeline :/

You can use the 'squint test' or just treat everything as it's own thing. Personally, I like to have my own Frankenstein version of the continuity I enjoy on my own.

 

I honestly think HMS bent over backwards to appease Hasbro corporate so theyeoumd keep the contract. Funny, that...

 

I just say the games were there own thing.

The shows had better continuity with Optimus and BB appearing on all shows.

 

That's just it. It's not a matter of someone saying those games are their own thing. They actually are their own thing. Soo many discrepancies and differences between the two that to say they are really aligned to each other is a misnomer.

 

Wait so the Trypticon art appeared after all? That's pretty funny.

 

There definitely much more than 2 discrepancies and holes between HMS' FoC/WfC <-> TF: Prime. I wouldn't even know where to start.