Comicbook.com reveals new Cyberverse toys

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    That was fun. They had some info theygthey from who knows where and was leaking it out.

    These people are just shamelessly profiting off theft.
     
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    Ok, Masterpiece Cyberverse Bumblebee please! :p 

    In all seriousness, call me when we finally do get a PROPER Titan-Class Iaconus.
     
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    The problem with this theory is that the "multiverse", as presented in Cyberverse, was just alternate versions of the Cyberverse continuity, rather than all Transformers continuities. If the WFC Quintessons were presented as beinf connected to the Cyberverse Quintessons it would actually not be aligned with how they were in the cartoon.

    On top of that, after the whole Thirteen/Primus/Unicron kerfuffle I can't see Hasbro doing anything similar again.
     
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    i feel this, was waiting for rodimus prime during the stuck in the space bridge episode, but nope rack and ruin for the lolz, sigh.... so much wasted potential
     
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    Could have made him a commander class.
     
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    Cyberverse doesn't have that.
     
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    Good theory. Ever since Cyberverse was fully revealed, I've had a strong notion this would be the last major media-backed line aimed at the "traditional" kids market of 6-12 or so (with it obviously skewing towards the younger end of that spectrum for several years now). Ever since Beast Hunters the "main" line has slowly been getting simpler/hollower/less focus, and now with Cyberverse-- with only a few exceptions, most of them interestingly enough towards the end of the line-- they aren't really new designs, just stylized/simplified versions of existing ones. The cartoon's budget has obviously cratered since Prime's.

    I think after Cyberverse we'll see more of a jump where you go straight from Rescue Bots to Generations (of whatever kind) since the traditional kids' market is all but gone now. (What was it, 2013 or 2014 Aaron Archer said he thought we would go to this 2-tiered structure within a decade? I think he's pretty on-point with his analysis.) Maybe a size class or two of in-between TFs like "Authentics" just to keep the major characters on the pegs for whatever is left of that traditional kids' market, and a temporary ballooning of Cyberverse-complexity toys whenever a movie comes out, but that'll be it.
     
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    Except we know rooster teeth has two more seasons of war for cybertron (in addition to the soon to be released season) and entertainment one is working on developing a transformers cartoon as well
     
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    The weird thing with WfC is the Netflix show uses the same molds/models as the Generations line, but has it's own toyline.

    In theory, WfC could just align with generations. Except due to production schedules it's lagging behind the toys. So it's almost like a reissue in sheep's clothing to get those toys on shelves to tie in to the show.

    We also don't know the timing of the EntOne show. What if that show aligns with the next Generations trilogy/theme while Hasbro supplies Walmart with repainted Earthrise and WfC3 figures until the Netflix show wraps?

    It could turn out Walmart was putting pressure on Hasbro because Generations didn't have a media presence behind it like Cyberverse or Studio Series. So when Hasbro greenlit the Netflix show they decided to do repaints to offer Walmart a juicy long term exclusive with a media presence behind it.
     
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    Given that Prime was given a pretty high budget as they wanted a flagship show and expected to get some other methods of return on it, that episodes still ballooned out of control and cost 2-3 times the budget per episode that they were given, that should be a non-starter.

    A show with a first season cost of at least 40 million to advertise a toy line that brought in 300K in revenue isn't something anyone should want to replicate. Is it any wonder that after that Hasbro shifted gears after that to more budget oriented production companies?

    TBH and on another note, I genuinely wonder how well the original RID App game did, especially with their target audience. I had fun with it when it launched, but later updates changed the way the game worked fundamentally, making it substantially less fun, then further updates made it so it wouldn't work at all on my device and I deleted the app altogether. Or if that was another money pit for them.

    Back on topic, I'm quite wanty on seeing what Iaconus transforms into, I'd be game for a lot of things, from a Stargate Atlantis/show city to a more streamlined cityship, to a kind of classic church style design to emulate the top of the city. It also does look like some of the other Ultimate figures did suffer so that Iaconus could get a greater part of the budget and be a better figure.
     
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    I'm not saying there won't be more cartoons or media-- I mean, we've got a movie coming out in roughly two years. I'm saying they probably won't be aimed at the "traditional kid" demographic of 6-11 or so, or at the very least they won't be backed up by a major toyline with nearly as many releases as Cyberverse has. In two series we've gone from the cartoon-backed toyline being the main line-- as it had always been since Transformers began-- to Cyberverse being probably 4th out of 5 Transformers lines in terms of market permeation (The Generations/WFC figures, Studio Series, and Rescue Bots get more backing, while Botbots has less). Wal-Mart didn't really even stock the line nationwide last year, remember.
     
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    Yeah because a new character would definitely sell when theyre a $80+ toy
     
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    It is and isn't it's own toyline. More of an ongoing subline really as it still shares branding for the WFC Trilogy that Siege, Earthrise and Selects all have.
     
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    Do you by any chance have a link for a story about this budget for a Transformers Prime? I really love that show, and I'd be interested to read more about the history of it.
     
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    Rik Alvarez has done a number of appearances and panels at TFCons, I did a quick search on YouTube but I'm not seeing the panel where he went into detail the train wreck that was Prime (it may have been pulled or maybe I just can't find it). However, on the TFWiki page that I linked to, there's a link to a Tumblr that may be pictures from that panel, but since you need a Tumblr account to see it and I don't and will not just to see what slides they are, it's up to you. If I recall correctly, the panel was from Charlotte about 5 years ago, you may have better luck finding it then I have in a few minutes. In short, the episodes were supposed to max out at 750K and most came in at 1.6 with some costing almost 2 million in later seasons because Hasbro didn't put their foot down; to make up for the extreme overspending UNIT:E got shut down as did a few other ideas in the works. On top of that, the writers and producers deliberately went out of their way to not include anything from the "Binder of Revelation" or integrate itself into the Aligned universe simply because they didn't want to, even when their plot ideas fell seamlessly into the universe by coincidence (Case in point, they had the Nemesis gain sentience, which worked as Trypticon was the Nemesis in Aligned, but when Hasbro asked for it to be refereed as such, the Prime people refused and actively went out of their way not to name him). There was an article about the animation studio from around between season 1 and 2, about what they were doing, and one of the points they were really proud of was that every Transformer cast member had multiple transformation sequences; so that they could use one depending on the camera angle, how fast the transformation needs to be, and the characters mood. Those sequences ate up an enormous amount of the budget, which is why Predaking couldn't transform for several episode, there was no money left at that point to pay for it until they could eat up more budget later for it.

    The TFWiki does have a blurb on it under the Prime Cartoon's Production entry: The show also went overbudget (each episode cost $1.6 million)[16] and The Hub itself didn't have as many people as planned, dooming the show despite plans for a fourth year.[17][18] Dropped plans included a S3 set mostly on Cybertron, with Maximals and Predacons in a 'wild west' set up [19] and an idea for pirates in S4.[18] In turn, this also derailed plans for a massive Avengers-style crossover project for Hasbro properties, launching off the end of Prime called Unit:E, which began as a one-off comic in 2011, and had seeds planted in various episodes (implying Agent Fowler worked for Unit:E itself, plus mentioning Skystrikers and M.A.S.K.).

    You can also check out either the "Which was better, Animated or Prime?" or "Was Prime that Bad?" (or something to those effect) threads in the cartoon forum, someone there as I recall did find the Rik Alvarez panel and may be in a better position to help you out.
     
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    Thanks! Rik is actually local, and I've picked up figures for him :) 
     
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    For those unhappy about how the episode The Crossroads presented the multiverse as a bunch of identical copies, wait until the second arc of season 3 for one or two actually different versions of characters, and some characters new to Cyberverse.

    I really hope we can get more toys after the series ends. I still need a big Croaton.
    With the character designs being used for the upcoming videogame (even if its not titled Cyberverse and lacks a bumblebee in the cover) I have hope we can get more waves of Deluxes. I hope for Windblade, Slipstream, Cheetor, Bludgeon, and someone in the generic male seeker mold.
     
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    Heh, no wonder the stuff following Prime was where we saw prices start going up. Can see that whole situation making Hasbro get very cautious about how it handled animated series going forward. Because I can see people who liked Prime thinking "Yeah suck it Hasbro let those creators do their thing!" but that kind of out of control spending could kill a lesser franchise. Like, say, if Transformers hadn't been elevated financially due to the movies at that time.
     
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