No
He was the evil bad guy

 

WTF, you talking about evil bad guy. He was the hero. Think about the evil rebels and broken down jedi (obi-wan), was keeping a single father from reuniting with his long lost stolen son.

 

Well... I think G.I. Joe's biggest insult was turning Cobra Commander into a snake... and all the Cobra-La stuff... wasn't well received form what I gathered.

 

Personally, I really liked it. I felt it was a rather creative idea and I felt the turning Cobra Commander into a snake idea just made you feel a bit sorrier for the poor sod.

 

Supposedly it came about when Hasbro told the G.I. Joe writers they had to introduce someone above Cobra Commander.

"Who's this Cobra Emperor guy."
"Cobra Commander's boss."
"Uh-huh. And where has this character been for the last 60 some episodes?"
"Oh, he's always been there, we just haven't seen him."

 

Yup, they actually had the Cobra-La idea and Serpentor created simultaneously and Hasbro liked the ideas so much that they told the writers to combine them, so we got Serpentor being created by Cobra, and in the movie, it's explained that Golobulus implanted the idea of creating Serpentor with a psychic motivator.

I honestly feel it really came across quite nicely overall.

 

Apparently money is more important than fans.

 

back then they wanted to kill off characters to discontinue the toys, nowadays remaking the same characters over and over is where they make money...

 

Me and my friends liked the movie a lot too. We loved the Cobra la. It wasn't until the internet late 90s that I learned it had such a bad reputation.

 

Uh.... did we watch the same movie? The GI Joe movie is VASTLY inferior to the Transformers movie. I mean, I love GI Joe, but damn. At one point Chuckles is riding on top of a helicopter like a horse, the infinite energy making machine is just stupid, and let's not even mention Cobra La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la.

 

Personally, I liked the idea of the B.E.T., since it was quite based on the work of Nikola Tesla and seemed like a plausible MacGuffin (much more than the Matrix of Leadership ever was).

I personally find the TF movie to have a lot of wasted opportunity and little to zero character development, whereas in the G.I. Joe movie, Falcon does grow from a total punk into a warrior and I actually could bring myself to like Jinx, Law and Tunnel Rat, whereas I really couldn't get attached to Kup, Ultra Magnus and Wreck-Gar until the third season, where they just left a bigger impression than they did in the movie.

Pythona and Nemesis Enforcer do a lot more than Galvatron ever did in the movie. All Galvatron did in the movie was kill Starscream and be Unicron's whipping boy for the rest of the movie. Pythona and Nemesis Enforcer, on the other hand, make Galvatron look like a complete chump. They are quite proactive, with Pythona infiltrating the Cobra Terrordrome and Nemesis Enforcer actually wounding three Joes, and they also feel a lot more threatening.

As for the big bad... Unicron just doesn't get any motivation or reason of being, plus, I always felt Orson Welles' performance was kind of weak (doesn't help that when they had him yell, they actually used stock screams of Bob Holt's Hulk). However, Golobulus does have a reason and motivation to do what he does. He wants to reclaim the Earth in order for Cobra-La's people to become the dominant race once again, since the ice age basically put an end to their reign and allowed the human race to thrive.

Plus, Burgess Meredith... he just delivers a fantastic performance as Golobulus and he really seems to be relishing every moment of it. All his speeches are impeccable and he actually does sound like a credible threat.

 

Duke didn't die, he just went into a coma. I think the G.I. Joe movie came out in 1987, after Transformers 86.

If you mean live action 2013 G.I. Joe Retaliation... I don't think anyone cared or remembers?

 

No we are talking about the G.I. Joe cartoon movie

Please don’t take this the wrong way but you should try reading through the entire thread

The original G.I. Joe cartoon movie was in production before the transformer movie, and the decision to kill Duke is what came first

The G.I. Joe cartoon movie got put on hold and the transformer movie was advanced in its time table which is why the transformers movie came out first

Due to the reaction of the death of Optimus prime Dukes death was changed to being put in a coma

 

Exactly, and the poor performance of the Pony and Transformers movies forced the Joe flick to be released directly to video.

 

I have a tendency to forget about that pony film

 

Thank you for the summary.

 

You’re quite welcome

 

Completely agree with everything you said. The star voice acting is lacking. If only they'd done a redub with the season 3 cast....
Another element of the movies the joes I think do better is the usage of music. By blending the cartoon music with the new music it felt more like gi joe. At certain points in Tf the movie the music feels out of place. The touch for instance is a great song but it's kinda underwhelming to use in segment where OP is being really bad ass. It mellows down the action sequence. One of the cartoon music bits would have worked much better.

 

GI Joe The Movie, everybody. Don't fall off Chuckles! ...or look up.

 

At least it isn't as unplausible as Devastator combining inside Astrotrain.