the complete marvel cinematic universe thread

Discussion in 'Movies and Television' started by Crazy Ramjetty, Jun 1, 2012.

  1. Uniclonus

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    Kinda leaving out an important detail when criticizing those costumes: they're from a low budget ashcan film. They weren't meant to look especially good, just utilize the license enough to retain the rights.
     
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    It depends on the series, but not originally. The original several Sentai teams were military organizations controlled by either the government or the UN. It wasn't until the 80s when they started to combine science with various forms of alien, mystical, or super natural technology.


    True, but all of those drive from poor writing and poor story telling. No one truly cares about bad CGI in the MCU because they are too busy enjoying everything else about it. However, people tend to notice the flaws in the effects if they are not enjoying the movie because their mind is set on looking for flaws. Unless you are specifically watching a movie to review it, you're going to ignore those little nitpicks as long as everything else is keeping you occupied.

    I will definitely give them props for the updates they have done to Cap's costumes on all spectrums as they still retain the spirit of their comic desigs. Though again, the Cap trilogy is the greatest Super Hero trilogy thus far in the writing department, so I'm able to overlook anything I might not agree with compared to Whiplash in Iron Man 2. Sure, I do not like Zemo not wearing his purple duds in Civil War, but that's the only flaw that movie has, so I'm able to overlook it.

    Speaking of Captain America, I just finished the first film and once again it continues to get better with every viewing. I recently did a top 10 favorites MCU list, but I really wish I had put this one in there, though I'm not sure where since my top 10 is full of already top notch movies. The WWII setting is quite intriguing as is the way they managed to retain the spirit of the comics while making it work for modern day audiences. All of the cast works, especially Weaving's exceptional Red Skull though I must say that Toby Jones gets quite overlooked for his masterful role as Zola. Then again, Jones is just an underrated actor to begin with as I feel he has more range than filmmakers allow. If there is negative I can say about this one it is we don't get enough time to see Cap and Bucky together on the battlefield, however, both actors and characters have so much chemistry together you still get Cap's lament when Bucky bites it.
     
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    AVENGERS: ENDGAME - A Dozen Alternate Means Of Time-Travel In The Film Have Been Revealed

    Perception is a cutting edge design lab that pioneers the "visionary process of Science Fiction Thinking to architect the future." Dividing their time between science fiction and science fact, they work with filmmakers on movies like 2019's Avengers: Endgame.

    They contributed towards the movie's time-travel explanation, and on their website, Perception has shared a dozen different theories for how it could work in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

    "The team at Perception was focused on the mechanics of how it might work, what it might look like, and how you would explain it," they revealed. "Perception also assisted the filmmakers with exploring ideas surrounding scientific considerations, technology-based concepts, and potential narrative influences."

    The full list of ideas is at this link:
    Avengers Endgame | Title Sequence Design - PERCEPTION


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    Real skull-busters. And the final film kept the time-travel as simple as possible, but it still had some holes in it.

    I personally like the ideas of quantum compression and time's avatar.
     
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    Would do well to convince everyone that Disney hasn’t fully neutered Marvel if true.
     
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    elsa bloodstone....i'll bet that's the role WWE's becky lynch was rumored to have been offered
     
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  6. Dr Kain

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    Avengers - To think, back in 2012 this was like the pinnacle of how to do a super hero team-up adventure and now it's outdated. Nevertheless, the movie is still outstanding as every character got a moment to shine and the dialog fit with each character while also being witty. Loki is a fantastic villain and there are so many memorable scenes such as the moment when Black Widow tricked the trickster god, Hulk pulverizes Loki, Hulk punching Thor, Coulson's "I watched you while you were sleeping" scene with Cap, "That guy's playing Galaga," and so on. The action scenes are really good and it kicks off the Infinity saga. Just a great adventure all around.

    Having rewatched all of Phase 1, this is how I'm going to rank them:

    1. Iron Man
    2. Captain America
    3. Avengers
    4. Thor
    5. The Incredible Hulk
    6. Iron Man 2

    It's a shame Fox never figured out how to make X-Men work to the same extent as the MCU, but oh well, sucks to be them. Next up, Phase 2.
     
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    I don't care how they do it, I just want them to do it and to do the teams right.
     
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    well one can argue how they introduce them could be 'not be done right' therefor the teams not being done right are like that from the get go. first impressions are hard to undo. if it's a bad introduction that could stick like a blemish. like how we're all pretty much in agreement that the MCU in a whole is great but that incredible hulk movie sticks out like a sore thumb.

    multiverse is a doable way to do the x-men. i'd think at this point an entire race of superpowered people just being there the whole time is far fetched so multiverse x-men might be how they do it. certain elements of x-men have to stay in place. something like wolverine's age and experiment history and magneto's past trauma. though it's been discussed he can't really be a holocaust survivor unless they pull a cryo sleep kinda thing.

    i don't see why they would need to go multiverse for the FF though. 'bombarded with cosmic rays' could happen now. they could all be part of the MCU without multiverse unless they want to hotshot an older experienced team onto the scene.
     
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  12. Dr Kain

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    What I mean by down right is that I just want the characters to resemble their comics.

    I don't see why they would need to do a multiverse with X-Men though. The point of X-Men was Charles was trying to keep them hidden, so it could be that is what he did until everything that happened.
     
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  13. Laser_Optimus

    Laser_Optimus Currently no longer giving a shit about the MCU. TFW2005 Supporter

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    Yeah, have to agree here. Look at how the comics got started. The majority of the characters we currently have in the MCU all existed before the X-Men's introduction in that medium. No ome complainedback than about "where have Mutants been this whole time" when that happened. Frankly, I think them being kept secret either by Charles/government cover-ups/Magneto or whatever (hell, Apocalypse even) as long as they keep the initial roster small. I think the reason people can't fathom Mutants showing up in the MCU is because they're thinking of the current roster of Mutants in the comics and not that they could still be relatively new (meaning a younger team) with guys like Charles, Logan, Wolverine, and Apocalypse that are older being a rarity... enough so that until recent events (and whatever causes the X-Men to come out in the open in their first film) made it easy for them to keep themselves hidden. Not to mention Charles showing up and erasing people's memories when he finds a new mutant isn't unheard of.
     
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    well one thing i will say is that the MCU is pretty good with this so i'm sure they'll be done right
    it was more about acceptance rather than hiding them. though using abilities to mind wipe the rest of humanity might be an alternate route to take. before this house of x stuff happened emma frost did this...for like one issue...but it still worked.

    the only issue i see coming from this is the amount of mutants. unless the go right to some krakoa story like what's currently happening it's tough to hide all mutants. especially if you want to introduce more...a small amount is one things but, let's say hundreds, is a different story.

    it's definitely a wait and see situation. multiverse seems like it's about to become an easy way out to introduce a bunch of characters at once with no real backstory on why they werent' here until now
     
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    Oh, so the last two movies I needed in 4K arrived today.

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    Iron Man 3 - I have to say this might be the first time I really enjoyed this one. I'm not sure if it is due to time being kinder to it or if I was in the right mood, but it is most definitely light years better than IM2. The first 90-ish minutes are really intense with so much momentum going for it with the Mandarin's threats and whatnot. And then when it is revealed to be a hoax, the whole movie loses its steam because it ends up just being another businessman jealous of Tony's success wanting revenge. What the fucking fuck people????? They do know there are OTHER types of villains for Iron Man in the comics, right? Of course, they also screwed up AIM by not having them be soldiers in yellow hazmat-like suits and where the hell was Modok? If you're going to do AIM, bring in freaking Modok!!! Anyway, the final fight with all of the suits of armors was cool and I do love how the movie is being told to Bruce.

    By the way, I forgot to mention we've also been watching the One Shots.

    Item 47 was an interesting idea though it makes me wonder, did Sitwell get these people to join Shield through being Hydra agents, or did they join Shield thinking they were being legitimate? What happened to these people after the Phase 2 incident?

    The Agent Carter one is absolutely fantastic and it reminded me of how good her TV show was. To this day I still think she had the best MCU related show overall, and yet, Agents of Shield got 7 seasons, Jessica Jones got 3 seasons, while Carter got canned after two. So unfair.

    Finally, oh my god is "Something Funny Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer" pure fun. That is just awesomely hilarious all around.
     
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    Thor Dark World - This is now my third time watching this movie and I still couldn't tell you a damn thing about the plot. Stuff just happens and Thor wins, the end. The pacing is all over the place, the editing is awful, the lighting is poor, and the only thing that saves it from being a total disaster is Hiddleston. All of the scenes with Dr Selvik are absolutely cringe inducing as if a five year old wrote him. "And he ran around stone henge naked, talked to some dudes about science using shows, and then he didn't wear pants in the house." What the freaking hell? Chris Eccelston's talents were completely wasted playing a villain who fight more like a child being spiteful because he got put in "Time Out." He had no arc at all, in fact, he didn't even have any character either. I'm not sure what the hell happened with this one, but it is hands down the bottom of the barrel. Even Iron Man's villains look deep compared to Malekeith.

    The All Hail the King short is still great despite the fact that it is another plotlline the MCU teased that went nowhere.
     
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    yet...

    the real mandarin is going to be in the upcoming shang chi movie.
     
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  19. Dr Kain

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    Are you sure about that though? It doesn't make sense for him to show up in a movie not related to Iron Man. That's like putting Joker into a Green Lantern movie.
     
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    the movie is titled Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings and Tony Chiu-Wai Leung has been cast as the mandarin so..yea i'm pretty sure