"Impressive...Most impressive..."

You know ever since I was young & started watching TFs anime, I've always wondered about how nice it would be if the Combiners/Gestalts have an alternate mode too (I mean if the team members could TFs from their alternate modes to robots, wouldn't it be tons cooler if the combined form could do the same thing too?)

 

 

The Nautilator mold is also the one left out of God Neptune, so if one wants to differentiate between the two (since I imagine God Neptune's inevitable), using Nautilator as a limb would help.

 

Fucking dope as shit.

I originally preordered all the guys on Pulse. Seemed expensive at the time but I watched Masterforce during a transformative time (lol) in my life. So glad I did.

 

Youtube PrimeVsPrime gave a very honest review of the combined mode of seacons and it seems that the 2 knees are big problem to make the Combined Robot to lean forwards.

Did he get the lemon or it is a mass production problem?

 

I think lemon.

 

Unlikely as both knee connectors are having the same issue. Very rare to see such honest review!

 

I mean, to me his complaints just seem to be indicative of every Combiner Wars or Power of the Primes combiner I've ever touched or owned. The combiner figures they make have (almost) always been very fiddley, hard to pose, and tend to lean forward. A lot of people like the poseability of the Power of the Primes feet vs the Combiner Wars hand/foot/guns...but I always found the latter to make the figure ever so slightly sturdier (though less poseable). Still, to me this seems to me to be par for the course. I feel like the Siege and Earthrise figures have made those previous combiner lines even more "finicky" by comparison.

 

Has anyone heard from The Chosen Prime recently? I sent in a request for shipping but I don't have a credit card registered so I wanted them to send a Paypal invoice.

 

I know you don't like to admit that Takara's TFs are just a susceptible to QC issues, but na dude, I've been experiencing the same thing with my King Poseidon (and he ain't the only one). Look, I bloody love these guys, they're great as individual toys, and the combined form is visually goddamn glorious, but yeah, there are a few disappointing issues.

King Poseidon can't hold a neutral upright pose and wants to do the Michael Jackson forward lean all the time, this is actually an issue I had with Victorion's stock feet as well, I managed to overcome it once to do a height comparison with Super/God Ginrai and haven't been able to replicate it since.
Another issue I've encountered with the feet is the side to side soft ratchets are waaaaaaay too soft compared to how solid the forward and backward ratchets are, now this could be an issue with my copy but the fact that it's both feet tells me this isn't a one off, the weight of the combined form is enough to easily overcome them causing the legs to slide out on hard surfaces, and that leads me to the next issue PrimevsPrime mentioned; the Combiner ports on the legs. They aren't secure enough to stop the limb-bot from sliding out if you're trying to get him into certain poses, and if those feet slide out from under him then there's a good chance at least one of the legs will pop out as well. Basically posing him can be a bit of a gamble as to whether it'll hold or not. Thighs forward a click, knees back a click is generally pretty solid.
Same issue with the thumbs unpegging while holding the sword as well, although this seems to vary from hand to hand.

Actually a non-QC related gripe of mine is the lack of storage for the sword and/or Turtler's gun on the back, surely they could've added a couple 5mm ports for them?

That said, I wouldn't go as far as to call the combined mode crap, it looks amazing it can just be incredibly finicky, certainly not enough to diminish my love for this set.

As a side note I've found if you get it just right King Poseidon can actually support the Targetmaster bot one handed if you use Tentakil as an arm and use his squid-face kibble to kind of lock the elbow in place at 90 degrees.

 

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I think he got a bad set b/c I don’t have the same issues except Gulf(arm) not holding the gun all that well

 

It literally sounds like the same problems as every other combiner I've seen since Combiner Wars. NONE of them are exactly stable and some hold weight easier, some worse. I expected this from the get go.

 

Combined stability is yet another aspect you must balance for when designing these four mode combining figures. Although most people leave them combined on their shelf, the bitching is relentless when the individual bots have awful individual modes.

I'm a weirdo who prefers most combiners uncombined. I like the idea of specialized theme commando teams more than one bigger guy, with some exceptions.

 

Could be. I do know that it took about four months of leaving my CW combiners together for them to start leaning forwards (I leave them in an a-pose because I'm too lazy to pose them, haha). And the UW versions tended to lean forward right out of the box for me (not all, but most). My King Poseidon seems fine for now, but I'll keep an eye on it. The leaning for me isn't a big deal as now it forces me to put them into cool poses, haha!

 

I got my pp invoice for the last two paid and shipped already. Have you checked your spam folders, they sometimes end up in there. I've had it happen a few times, but otherwise use the site's contact us function. They're great at responding, though I assume it will be slow due to the human malware going on.

 

Go to 9 minute time stamp of the below japanese review, he faced the same loose knee connector problem as PrimeVSPrime

 

I don't know if you've got any other combiners, but it's a pretty common problem.

 

I wonder... is this what happens when the majority of your toys fall off the back of a truck in Vietnam? Inquiring minds...

 

I remember the days when most early reviews had QC issues for reasons completely unrelated to being snuck out factory rejects  

 

It's also fixable. The combiner port ratchets have a spring in them that's too short / weak in some molds. Dead End and Wildrider are my only two where it's been bad enough to bother fixing. Push the pin out holding their hoods, take out the two screws in their chest, and separate the bodies. Then lift the combiner port out (hold it by the sides or it'll fly apart) and carefully let the spring push it apart. Cut a small cardboard ring from something like a cereal box, and put it under the spring, so it doesn't have to travel as far. Reassemble and test - if it's still too weak try a second ring. Once it's good, put it back together. I haven't had any problems with knees since the fix. It's probably the same with all the molds, although I don't know how many hoops you have to jump through to get to the combiner port.