Ocular Max ReMix RMX-11 Tempo (Steeljaw)

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by OriginalFire, Jul 14, 2019.

  1. yvk2000

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    Since the Combaticons are done, hopefully the Autobot cassettes are being worked on right now.
     
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    Haha I love these references! The Eva ones are adorable! I’d love to have a tape case with all these crazy little buggers in there with their wacky colours. Nice to see a recent look at models as well. Thank you!
    The Combaticons are definitely not done. They’d have been released by now if it was that easy. Everything seems pretty tight in the 3P workforce. I’m sure they’re trying to do their best.
     
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    That's the point.
    Most of us (of a certain age) have used a standard sized audio cassette for music. Micro-cassettes were a niche item. So, to most of us, in headcanon, Soundwave and Blaster transformed into regular a regular tape player that used standard cassettes. Actually, while Blaster's alt was pretty much an 80's style boombox.
    So to a lot od us it's very cool that we can can get cassete-bots that transform into standard sixed tapes.

    Also there are already lots of micro-casette bots out already.
     
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    My bad. I thought I saw pictures by users here of all five combined (I stopped following this set after I saw Onslaught tbh). Well, then better to drop my hopes of seeing these by end of the year.
     
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    Better not set any certain expectations. The Combaticons only have two members left. If the Protectobots are still far from done I’m sure we’ll get the remix tapes some stage. But don’t worry, when they’re released it’ll be great.
     
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    I like to mess around with my figures when I get a break from kids, wife and work. I actually have my Frenzy in his case. When people around my age, or older, come over and look at my collection (if they show interest), I show them the Frenzy cassette and they are surprised I still have a cassette before I transform it or just show them Rumble.
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    Wait, where are people getting the idea that the MMC ones are the "proper scale"? Rumble and Frenzy were typically knee-height in relation to Soundwave, and were pretty much always human sized when interacting with humans. They were occasionally portrayed as larger, sure, but those times were less common.

    I think the Fanstoys cassettes will end up being the closest to what size they usually were on the show.

    Has it occured to you that a lot of people just love the actual act of transforming a Transformer and the engineering that goes into it? The engineering in the MMC figures is phenomenal and would not exist in a non-transforming figure.

    Not everyone cares solely about sticking a transformer on a shelf.
     
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  8. Orion2703

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    Whilst i normally refrain from using 'that scene' and single point screen grabs this remains so iconic to me that I'll make an exception this time.

    I know which of these looks right to me, and it sure ain't the second one :D 

    NB, yes the second is the TT one, not FT, but they're not going to be that different lets be honest.

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    Imagine creating MP Headmasters that were scaled up like this and you have robots that transform into heads that do not interact with a body robot.
    An MP bot with a pointless altmode, I find this to be a problem.

    MMC wanted to make larger Bots, they had to sacrifice something to make that happen. The choice of keeping a useless altmode over over higher articulation, sculpt, and proportions does not make sense to me
     
  10. edgecrusher

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    You've got it twisted. What they did is sacrificed a useless, static alt mode (microcassette) that was already covered by Takara's anyway, in order to have a better botmode with higher articulation, sculpt, and proportions which is much more in line with the ethos of masterpiece. And we got the added bonus of the static altmode now scaling to a proper '80s cassette size. Win-win. Takara for microcassette mode, MMC/OX for botmode.

    Compared to Takara's tiny ones, MMC's are much closer to correct for MP scale, aside from the birds.

    They're also way better looking and much more enjoyable to display and pose, so there's that too.
     
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    Why?
    The consumers of these products largely are not collecting pure action figures, they are collecting transforming toys. The benefits of them being non-transforming are irrelevant if someone wants it to transform, regardless of how often they go through that process. It doesn't sound wholly sane written down but its the truth.
    MMC are not going to cut out a big portion of the market and make the product unprofitable.

    And as has already been said mmc fulfilled the alt mode in, imo, a genius way that's both fun, clever and chock full of nostalgia.
     
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    Surely it would be limiting to *not* have a transformation? By having 2 modes you have two choices. But only having one mode means there is no choice... hence a limitation.

    Also... here is shot of Spike holding Soundwave.

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    and here is a shot of Spike fighting with Rumble.

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    make sense of that pal.
     
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  13. Quintessential Prime

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    Diggin' the Battle Cat inspired deco - and your Nightstalker puts my digital-bash to shame. Can't wait for the 1st 4 Autobot tapes and then some Stripes and Sundor re-decos of Jaguar and Volture.
     
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    Let's be honest here, they turn into rectangles with two holes. Whether it's big or small, the alt mode is equally useless.
     
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    Bingo. And let's handle the next objection: "But only one size fits in the chest of Soundwave/Blaster." Yes, Takara's already does so there's no need for MMC's to do that, too. Sure, if mass-shifting physics was reality then by all means go for it. For now, being able to have the larger botmode scale is the focus since that is what Takara's can't do. And since Takara already covers the cassette-mode scale, we collectors now have the best of both worlds. Want a display where the microcassette is shown ejecting from Soundwave's chest and a full-size Ravage is hitting the ground to prowl? Yeah, we can do that now. Same with Rumble and Frenzy.
     
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    The only way to deal with these characters is by remembering their mass compaction/shifting.

    Why should they only have 1 level of compaction, they could just as easily have several levels between alt and robot modes that they could stop at at will.

    Megatron is held by other cybertronians, humans and fixed under the seekers, so 3 levels of alt mode there.

    Rumble of course from his fights with humans and Hound.

    Shockwave is portrayed as a huge gun with no compaction in the first story, can't remember if anyone ever holds him at a smaller size.

    Blaster, omega supreme, astrotrain the list goes on.

    The point being, anyone who can mass shift, also should have incremental control over it as needed.

    So pick your own scales with different figures and nothing is out of place. You can't represent this with a single figure after all.
     
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    Jesus, if u are not happy with the alt mode, go wait for the fanstoys soundwave where they are way smaller n fit into him.
     
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    That scene was an outlier though. Usually Rumble is portrayed as roughly human-sized, which in turn is about knee level to Soundwave. In fact, interacting with humans at a human scale was sort of his thing.

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    Also it should be noted that it's actually Hound who is undersized in the scene where he fights Rumble, as Spike is also in that scene and is roughly the size of Rumble.

    I wouldn't even say they're closer. Takara's are a bit too small, but they still come closer to Soundwave's knee (IE the size usually portrayed in the cartoon) than the MMC versions do. But regardless, my point was that they aren't the "proper" scale. If Rumble and Frenzy can be said to have a "proper" scale, it's the Fanstoys versions that are closest to it:

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    But yes, obviously the MMC versions are the best figures out of any versions of the characters (and I don't think Fanstoys will beat them there), I was never contesting that. Just the idea that they are the most accurate possible size for the characters.
     
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  19. Ozymandias13

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    I see Rhinox; but no Cheetor. I am pleased with your efforts, but left unsatisfied.

    A *true* child of the 80s would know that a cassette's *true* habitat is not the inside of a tape player but rather piled up on the coffee table/car door stow bin/bottom of school locker. Having a pile of random cassette tapes laying in a pile with no tape player present to interact with is perfectly normal alt-mode play for such characters in such a time period, and pretty much eliminates all these issues of yours as being founded in a wrong assumption of what's 'normal' behavior for these items.
     
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  20. supervir2

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