Nemesis Prime would be an awesome enemy against both Rodimus and Galvatron,

 

Used to be popular to hate any Bayformer movie, like when the first two or three were all there were. I guess we've come full circle as a fanbase to liking them.

 

Lady friends that appreciate G1? Just what I need in my life now. Where can I find them? Don't think there's any in this decrepit valley.

 

I think it's kind of complex actually.

For one, you have some fans of pre-existing fiction who dislike all of the movies, and you have others who like all the movies, whether they were introduced to the brand through the movies or not.

However, there are also many people, both in the general public and fans on this site, who were introduced to the brand via the movies, and enough time has passed since the earlier films that they now feel nostalgic toward the earlier films.

Furthermore, if you were introduced to the films, you might associate Transformers with the specific concepts and characters from the earlier films. Consequently, when the films continued past DotM, now none of the human characters (until TLK) and few of the robots that such people were familiar with were present. It's kind of like in 1986 when you had mostly new robots and humans.

A large portion of fans...I would say a majority...prefer familiarity over novelty or new territory, including Bayformers fans. So even though the later films are just as influenced by G1 as the earlier films are, to the movie fans it's unfamiliar territory, and many, although certainly far from all, G1 fans themselves don't care for Season 3, which the later movies are more strongly influenced by.

Plus, I think there are some members of the fandom who don't know what they want in a Transformers film and have constantly changing goalposts. Consequently, even when the movies did make changes to appease fans, the same fans came up with new issues that were never, ever issues before!

I also think that if TLK tried more to be a regular sequel to the other films rather than a cinematic universe, it would have been received better by the fandom. But it minimized or ignored some major points about the previous film (the existence of Galvatron, an alien race of Creators), and many promises from interviews never came through.

Personally speaking, I think it was the right call continuing the Bayverse after DotM. AoE was a financial success and probably much more interesting than any film a potential reboot would have been imho.

And even The Last Knight, while not that good as a sequel to AoE, still had redeeming qualities that are overlooked. Yeah, it undoubtedly underused many characters and had too many things going on...but so did the earlier films. RotF and the 2007 film were no different in that regard.

Plus, I enjoy how the later movies were more creatively risky, even if many of those risky things were not always well received. I admittedly don't care much for Quintessa as an antagonist or the Earth being Unicron, but I'd much rather have Transformers films that try different things, with both hits and misses, than films that just regurgitate things that fans already love.

The human mind works best on the edge of insanity, and so does the Transformers brand. If you had a film that embraced the ridiculousness and weirdness of The Last Knight, but was more focused and less clunky, you could have a darn good live action Transformers movie.

 

Well they just appreciate the old movie on the value of its animation and music and story. It's a good flick and a tight 90 minutes. Idk if they'd tolerate FFOD although one of them did also start Beast Wars and another one saw Cyberverse on YT and remembered the movie and watched that.

 

Blue Arcee > Pink Arcee

 

Animated is really not that good.

 

The Elite Guard is just another unnecessary sub-team within the already congested Autobot faction.

 

Grimlock and the Triceratops are the only OG Dynobots that look cool.

 

The score for Bumblebee was great... excluding the final battle. All the major action and character scenes had excellent music, but the final battle's music was plain, generic, and forgettable; and being the climax of the film, it's understandable why a lot of folks thought the score wasn't great. Cybertron Falls, Shutdown, and Charlie were really memorable in particular, it's just that they dropped the ball with the climax.

 

-Generally, I prefer inhuman designs for decepticons/ the evil faction. Be it in bayverse, beast machines, or RID 2015, I find it lends to more creativity in character design and cooler toys. Particular exemplars of this are Thrust, Obsidian, Quilfire, Thunderhoof, Crazybolt, and of course, Movie Overload.
-Consistent-ish vehicle to robot mode scale is satisfying (Animated show/ Bayverse/ prime show).The BB movie, particularly the fight with blitzwing, reminded me of this. There was something incredible in seeing just how much bigger blitzwing was. I know that it makes non-blitzwing/sixshot/horrorcon triple changers impossible, but it really grounds a series.
-Evil primes are overdone. Give me complicated primes, ala IDW 1 Optimus and mtmte Rodimus.

 

To build off of this, there are several human characters in the franchise I like such as Spike, Marissa Fairborn and Verity Carlo. I wouldn’t mind seeing certain human characters reoccur in different continuities just as robot characters do.

I’d like to see some more human-focused TF stories as well. IDW’s Infiltration is an example of a human-perspective story done well and one of the few pieces of TF media to really explore the “robots in disguise” angle.

 

The other way around for me.

 

This. This right here.

 

AOE was the best TF movie yes better then Bumblebee

truth!

 

Count me as another who likes humans in their Transformers fiction. I love cultural exchanges between the two species. Yeah, action's cool and EXPLOSIONS! But sometimes I like seeing a human and Transformer talk.

And yes, some of my favorite characters in the franchise have been humans. Spike, Sparkplug, Carly, Chip and Marissa from G1, Alexis from Armada, fanzone and Isaac Sumdac from Animated and others.

 

I always thought it would be great to have someone like Armada Hotshot teach the kids how to drive. Have a nice bonding moment like that.
And then have it pay off later, when the kids are in trouble, there are no bots around to save them, but then they spot a car & floor it to safety!

 

That's something I didn't know the franchise was missing this whole time. Just general mentorship from a particular bot to the kids in little things would really sell the bot as a surrogate parent.

 

I like a lot of things the movies did, although I don't think that's unpopular now. I totally understand why people dislike them wholesale. For me it's mostly the designs I love, not a big fan of the films themselves. But I guess the unpopular opinion is that I don't think the movies were this massive divisive force in the brand. The problem is just fans who never shut the hell up, on both sides. If you didn't like the movies, obviously you aren't buying the toys and of course you'll probably post your thoughts on them. Same if you like them, you're singing their praises and buying the toys. No problem.

It's the people who either act like they're the only part of the franchise that matters or that they singlehandedly ruined the franchise and are the sole splitting factor. I get the films were a very polarizing and a shockingly different take on things. But Michael Bay and his monster robots and humping dogs did not divide the fandom, people acting sanctimonious and like their opinions are divine scripture did. It's been thirteen years since the first movie and people are still beating the same dead horses. I was in the hard pro-Bayverse camp for a while and then the equally fervent opposition. Now I just like some of it and don't like some of it and don't concern myself with what other people think. If people could swallow their pride and learn to let sleeping dogs lie there would be a lot more harmony on the boards. Instead we still get the veiled insults from G1 fans and the entitled rants from self-unaware movie fans.

TLDR the movies are not actually any more or less divisive than the rest of the brand, fans are just petty.

 

I really like the movies and have been in arguments them admittedly, and I agree fully. That's why I like to have fun with Shrekformers and Jaegertron and Lepre-Cons, because discussions about Transformers should be fun and enjoyable, not bitter and angry. Like the Joker in The Dark Knight, "Why so serious?"

The worst things in Transformers are merely, "Meh," not, "Ruined forever," or, "How can anyone like that?" Any more serious emotional investment in something you don't care for is not worth it.

If someone's favorite fiction is one or more of the Machinima Series, that's okay. If some fan thinks the best G1 episode is "Carnage in C-Minor," and they have a reason for it, there's nothing wrong with that. If someone's favorite movie is The Last Knight, there's nothing wrong with that.