Masterpiece Arcee MP-51

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  1. oku

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    No headmaster, but doubleheader Acree confirmed.
     
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    Is it some kind of stupid joke? It looks nothing like her face. The actual face is fine.
     
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    Her chin is too long and narrow, they should shave a mm off of it.
     
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    I wonder if they're basing her face, well that one anyway more of of Japanese headmasters vs TFTM
     
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    This Arcee looks really good imo. It looks the most natural compared to all the other third party offerings. I don’t really collect G1 MPs, but I’d be tempted to get this
     
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    Well the video did help to clarify things for me as well.
    The alt mode is still fantastic.
    The limbs still look great.
    The face is still an abomination, the chest still looks much too low and the backpack is frankly beyond a joke at this point.
    I get that Takara simply doesn’t care in the slightest and will happily just shove panels anywhere they can to get them out of “line of sight” from the front, but this is getting kind of stupid. BW Megatron had the better part of a giant T-Rex folded onto his back and it was smaller than this.
    It’s better than the new Prime and the new Bumblebee because at least the visual flaws are relatively concentrated in one or two places, but it kinda stinks. They were so close too. Most of the figure is great. The face and chest could always be tweaked with design changes or even new add on parts but they really should have tried a bit harder with the backpack.
     
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    I agree that criticism is fair, as is appreciation - it’s all in the eye of the beholder.

    With that said, I’m not sure that many people would be asking for the current face if we were getting something more closely aligned with the toon - particularly her TF:TM appearance. Frame by frame discrepancies aside, I’m confident there’s a general appearance that can be distilled, and I doubt it would look like MP-51.

    To be fair, I haven’t spent any time watching S3 episodes to see whether there are many (or any) that have her looking like the MP (I can switch off fussiness if she did and it wasn’t an animation anomaly/error), but, to the best of my ability, I don’t recall her looking like this.

    As it stands, and in my view, her face does seem like more of a personal interpretation rather than something that follows the ‘course’ of toon accuracy as we’ve seen it in recent years.

    There are always those that say that certain face sculpts appear to miss the mark - e.g., as some have said about MP-47, and I can kiiiind of see what they were talking about there, but it hit enough of the ‘sweet spots’ to satisfy me.

    Not so with Arcee, which is a shame because more than many other elements, face sculpts make the character who they are. I know I’ve said “it is what it is”, but I would still be over the moon if they revisited it.
     
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    I was defending you? He said you were over exaggerating etc. I just pointed out that your choice of descriptive words still had a credible argument whether he agreed with the phrase you used or not.

    Shouldn't have bothered, obviously
     
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    SHe's growing on me just cause we didn't have a real G1 release of her so i say i'll give her a chance
     
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    Anybody work out the size of this gal (based on Magnus perhaps)?
     
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    I had similar thoughts, but then:

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    Totally agree. I don't see why opinion either way is pounced on in the way it is (because internet?).

    I also completely agree that it is highly unlikely that anyone would have suggested this face aesthetic if we'd been given anything else. It just doesn't look like her.
     
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    There's zero room for a proper waist swivel with this particular design.

    The low-cut panty line means that the natural place to put a waist cut is almost directly in line with the hip joints.
     
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    This is really the crux of it. Fans can pretend there's some explanation for why the face looks the way it does, but we all know TT could've easily produced something that looks accurate and well done.
     
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    Hooray I'm not alone! :p  Never understood why could became commonplace in that phrase. It doesn't make sense.

    Off the top of my head I dont think any episodes have her with the off-model face of this MP, but if there are any, it'll almost certainly be one of the Akom animated ones. They really were the worst.

    I think it might be above the grey section, as it's the only place I've noticed a split in the sculpt, so it would be more of an ab swivel. Ironically this angle also shows the white section of her abs that should be visible but is being covered by the low chest piece also.
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    Though unlikely, I still think there's a chance the torso might extend at that point to make the white section more visible. That or the suggested raising the chest piece.
     
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