Transformers (2019 - ) #16

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  1. Focksbot

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    I think I'm going to end up as a broken record for most of this series run.

    It was an enjoyable read, and is competently plotted, but none of the characters stand out to me, and it doesn't feel like it needed to be a Transformers comic. The Micromaster squad in this comic reminded me of Furman's battle sequences - everyone is interchangeable except for the odd special ability.

    I'm basically reading an above average 2000AD strip.
     
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    I actually see this as a good, refreshing thing. Novelists pace a story better, FAR better than most comic writers (who more often rely too heavily on the cliffhangers/gotchas/need for action in every issue that comic writers are often constrained by).

    The more prose novelists that get involved with comics, the better. Traditional comic book storytellers can come across a bit regressed in ability, or dated in their ways of telling a story. The Alan Moores, Neil Gaimans, Jonathan Hickmans, and Rick Remenders in the industry are the exception, not the norm. The genre has evolved and the bar has been raised several times. Sadly, not many non-indie artists have risen to the occasion.

    If thats the case, I’ll gladly start reading this series. MTMTE especially became way too silly and the Roberts main title was already far too deep into the timeline for me to bother to pick up
     
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    I'm LIVING for Team Stream right now. Specifically, I LOVE Flamewar, Shadowstriker and Hyperdrive. They've got a fun little dynamic I kinda see in the DJD and Scavengers from the last continuity. Hoping to see more of the,! I got worried earlier in this series that the violence was gonna be toned down from the previous continuity, but MAN, did this issue prove me wrong! I'm finding Starscream's roll in this pretty interesting as well. Can't wait for the next issue! This was the best one in a while!

    10/10
     
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    Headrush is my favorite new character
     
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    In all honesty did anyone see a huge disconnect in the beginning of this series
    everyone is shocked by the death of rubble and a murder on cybertron in general being unheard of
    and then now
    casually cutting bots in half and blasting their heads apart while joking about it.
    Maybe I'm recalling incorrectly but it seems like it doesn't fit?
     
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  6. Issy543

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    It appears that the Autobots are still concerned about the murder. In #15, Bumblebee is still upset about the loss of Rubble.

    I think the reason why most Deceptions are not concerned about this is because two of them were responsible for the murders; specifically, Quake and Frenzy.
     
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    There are constant Ascenticon protests in the background whenever we're shown the city. The protagonists are not panicking about the Risers killed too much because well...They were Risers. No other neutral or Autobot leaning characters had been killed until this issue.
     
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    It's true that no other netural or Autobot leaning character has been killed yet, but the Rise did try to kill Cyclonus all the way back in Issue #8. However, I'm not sure if they were trying to kill him because he discovered their base or because he is their enemy.

    It's been said by Ruckly that issue #18 will involve Cyclonus, so I hope we get to learn more about him there, or at the very least, this leads towards him getting his own story arc in Galaxies.
     
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    I mean, the guys doing those things are the same people responsible for the murders that kicked all of this off. They're not exactly rational or stable people.
     
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    How can even the bad guys be this nonchalant about murder, if this this is meant to be a world where it's an extremely rare event. Unless they've forgotten or thrown out the initial setup where a death on cybertron is world shaking. I thought that applied to all bots even the rise and that
    Quake
    went off the rails
     
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    The general implication is that the Rise is mostly made up of ex-military. Veterans of the previous war who aren't content with the current status quo, but unlike the Ascenticons (at first) didn't consider peaceful change an option. It may not be that big a deal to them as it is to the common populace simply because they're already killers and consider this necessary.
     
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    I’d like to see Megatron and Soundwave be a little bit more concerned about the murders tbh. Especially Megatron. He’s very pro-forging and seemingly anti-violence (unless it’s absolutely necessary in his mind) so a death like that should hit him on a personal level. Not to mention Rubble’s death is pretty much on him. He should have serious moments of regret/sadness over that loss instead of throwing things around in his office and yelling at Soundwave because he’s more worried about their schemes being uncovered. True this could all happen off-panel but I wish there was ONE short scene where he’s legitimately upset about the loss of RUBBLE, not his control over political shenanigans.
     
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    This is a hilarious post. Have we reached the stage where we tell other posters what to write and how to express themselves.lol.
     
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    In issue #10, twice Megatron was shown to be concerned about he loss of Rubble, although not at the same way as the Autobots were. One was when he told Bumblebee he was sorry for his loss, and another was when he told off Shockwave for having a rise kill Rubble.

    As for him being against violence? I think secretly, he doesn’t use violence to the public eye in order to appear approachable, but in reality, he would love to be aggressive. For instance, in issue #16, after he’s damaged his chair while listening to Elita-1, during that one panel where there is no dialogue, he’s probably thinking about doing some damage to Soundwave, but realise it’s not worth it, so he decides to send Shockwave instead.

    I think something in Megatron’s life has caused him to make him become irrational, which I believe was hinted in issue #6, and when the war starts, it’ll make him an unpredictable character.

    As for Soundwave not being emotional? I think that, like a lot of his recent counterparts in other media, he’s not that much of an emotional character, hence why wasn’t that broken up when he killed those Rise members. However, we haven’t seen him since issue #14, so maybe there will be a change for me to be proven wrong.
     
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    In one way or another, that’s what at least fifty percent of the posts here are doing, including yours above.

    I hardly think asking someone to articulate the reasons for their dislike of something is tantamount to censorship or oppression.

    Anyway, when is the next issue out? I’m pretty excited to see what happens next.
     
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  16. Issy543

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    Issue #17 comes out on the 19th February.

    Also, the long awaited Transformers Galaxies #4 comes out on the 26th February. Kinda surprised that issue had a big delay.
     
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    At least it’s two in a week!
     
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    do you think Megatron was actually being sincere? Hard to tell if he’s putting on a show.

    agree with the violence. I feel like shutting down the gladiator arenas on top of restraining Cybertron was a huge loss for him and he doesn’t have an outlet for his violent tendencies anymore.
     
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    I heard that his finishing move was the dreaded 48hr Filibuster.

    I read that as trying to offer constructive criticism. Rather than just posting “Reeeee: I hate this. it sucks,” it’s far better to additionally offer reasons why you don’t like it. The pacing could be bad. It could have unsympathetic or aloof characters or be plagued with writing inconsistencies. Any of this can open up a good discussion of what is bad, and good, in a story and get folks thinking, contributing, or open up a dialogue. Just saying a book is crap with no explanation is something a 5-year-old would say. Whether intentional or not, it shuts down conversions rather than promote them.

    Sadly I’ll believe that when I see it. I don’t know what is going on but these delays are not doing this reboot any favors.
     
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    I think he was being a bit sincere, since he was barking at Shockwave for having a Rise kill Rubble, and how that shouldn't have happened. He might have been fine with Brainstorm's death however...

    I think Megatron has been brought up with violence in most of his life, and unlike Orion Pax, he never really had any friends to temper his anger. Instead, they want him to use that anger to lead a new movement which, as everybody already knows, leads towards a civil war on Cybertron.

    I'm wondering what the final domino will be in this domino effect we are witnessing? Will it be the death of Sentinel Prime, an energy crisis or something else?
     
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