Generations Selects Seacons in color

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  1. denebian

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    I'd guess you will need the other arm to support it, just based on the fact my Bruticus can't even hold Shockwave without drooping, and my Superion can't hold Powerglide without drooping.
     
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    I suppose that's likely. Some people predicted that the Seacon limb bots would have their knee joints (which become the combiner's elbows) in combiner arm mode strengthened in comparison to previous CW-style limb bots so that King Poseidon could support the bot serving as the weapon by raising just the arm holding it. But right now, since the Seacon limb bots except Gulf haven't been released, there's no way to test that unless someone bought two Gulfs for whatever reason.
     
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    denebian is right on the money, a single CW style limb-bot just can't support the weight of the Targetmaster mode alone. The springs in the combiner peg would have to be unreasonably strong along with the the knee joints and waist swivel being super tight to be able to. No issues holding it like a shotgun like in my picture. You're definitely going to want to invest in some kind of flight stand if you want to pose King Poseidon wielding your preferred Seacon's gun-mode one-handed.
     
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    The Chosen Prime had Tentakil and Overbite also available so I cancelled with TFSource to consolidate my order in one place. There's no use getting only two of them anyway so I might as well wait until March (or whenever). I love how they look and since I came in late in G1 these guys were the only ones I could realistically collect, aside from the 1990 re-releases. It also appears to be a nice consolation price for the BBTS reissue that had all those issues that made it hard to really love it.
     
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    There might be a way to do it without support.....

    Twist the limb's waist 90° so the hips and knee joints aren't in the same plain as the weight of the gun mode. All the weight is then on the shoulder, and pulling forward so the hips might need a click or so back to balance it... but it might work
     
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    Even if you can get that to work, then you also have balance to contend with as the hips and knees struggle to counter that extra leverage.
     
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    I tried that as well and it's just too much weight for the shoulder ratchet, sometimes it did hold briefly using Gulf as the arm with a Terrorcon "gun" but not for long, and there was still the balance issue with the actual Combiner. I think if anyone wants to get any kind of decent pose out of King Poseidon while wielding a Fishgun™ then said Fishgun™ is going to need some kind of support.
     
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    Are those the same wallies who hold a sword facing down instead of up in their fighting technique?
     
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    No.
     
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    Well, I suppose it's not too realistic from a design standpoint to make the Seacon limb bots have tight and strong waist and knee joints so that King Poseidon can wield one of them as a weapon one-handed. Might be too costly from a design standpoint as well as affecting the playability and poseability of those figures as individual robots when they aren't serving as combiner arms.

    In hindsight, it does seem realistic from a proportional standpoint as well. If you had to heft a gun the size and weight of one of your arms or legs (which the bot serving as a weapon literally is), you'd almost certainly struggle to lift, aim, and fire the thing one handed. Not to mention it'll likely look ridiculous to try such a thing anyway. A "shotgun pose" certainly looks more realistic and natural. I suspect that the designers came up with the following "combined gun" as an option for anyone that wants to pose King Poseidon firing a gun one handed. It's probably almost as big as a weapon mode Seacon but likely considerably lighter.

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    Maybe have it on a tri-pod stand for the limb gun to sit on. That way it's a functional add-on piece and won't look out of place like some clear stands would.
     
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    And shipped.
     
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    Man I gotta say that my expectations for this set are extremely low. The few Takara exclusives I got have spotty QC and in general I don't like the uber animation coloring of the UW combiners that much. I'm gonna get massacred for saying this, but I would have liked a "Hasbro styled" detailing of this combiner (think CW vs. UW Defensor torso). I know Takara uses coloring that look really vibrant but I like small details picked out.

    In terms of the QC I've noticed in my figures that the additional retoolings are the worst offenders, like Ginrai's feet, Dai Atlas' wobbly waist chain and God Bomber completely. Keeping my expectations low so that if anything I can be pleasently surprised. But the first reviews and price in general make me think I might regret my purchase. If this happens It'll probably be my last Takara purchase for a long time.
     
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    You would need a full set of ratchet joints, on top of that the knees and ankle joints are too weak to prevent the figure from drooping. If I do an action pose Bruticus will hold shockwave properly. Also, I got both Blast-Offs and neither holds fully. It is as it is. With ball joints and hinges you will never get what you need. That being ratchets in every joint. And that is near impossible since it is so complex to make in such a small figure.

    In my opinion, and that is my opinion alone! Only the CW Computron and UW EX Megatronia sets are worth it. The Computron set has 3 different moulds compared to the CW set. As well as beautiful Anime and also toy colouring. With Afterburner being just all Anime. Some say the CW Afterburner is so much more toy accurate....well didn't see a green windscreen on my G1 figure. Must be me?
    As for Megatronia, those colours are so much more pleasing. Takara just knows how to colour figures.
     
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    In my case I agreee that Megatronia is A LOT better than Victorion. I got Vicki instead of Tronia mainly because of the price, $150+ vs $42 I got Victorion from an Amazon sale. Also, my OCD would have been triggered heavily because all of my other Combiners were 6 members.

    In the case of Computron, I also got the Hasbro for a discount, and I like the color variaton a lot more. While UW looked nice it looked too uniformily red for my tastes. I like how CW Comps even had a touch of baby blue in the torso, diferent shades of red and pink, more yellow and the green from Afterburner looked a lot better to my eye. The custom hands and feet were a nice bonus too and Scrounge kinda sealed the deal for me.
     
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    Those are nice, but Seacons will probably be worth it and number one, and I would argue Grand Galvatron is the best of the of them all followed by Baldigus, also worth it.

    That's my humble opinion. ;) 
     
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    I'm in the same camp as you. I preferred the CW versions of a lot of the Combiners. CW Superior with Slingshot, CW Defensor and CW Menasor with Wild Rider. I did pick up UW Bruticus and UW Computron, but I had QC issues with both. My Blast Off couldn't transform without parts falling off and my Lightspeed had a bad Combiner port. I had to take him apart to fix it and it was a pain.
     
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    I meant ofc the sets that exist. The Seacons are on my preorder list. And definitely worth it. I didn't really think of the Grand Galvatron set, but I prefer my G1 to be G1. As for Baldigus, I wish that Bruticus was that well decked out. If he was then I would have bought the set from Takara. But for mere paint difference I decided to stick to the Hasbro ones. And finally got the Blast-off during PotP that is the shuttle.

    I have similar opinions. My Lightspeed btw has the same sort of issue with a wobbly combiner port. Though I have no idea how to fix that. It isn't as bad that he won't stand at all but it is a bit of a chore. As for Blast-off the Hasbro version that I have is rock solid. So I am confused why the UW version is bad? What parts come off though?