PSA: New toy plastic condition discovered (melted soft rubbery parts)

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by Nevermore, May 2, 2017.

  1. dragonflye18

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    thats a good thought resin copies may be the way to go
     
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    I just had an idea thanks to a flashback to an older toy, the Action Man Space Captain!
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    Now this fella came with a rubber latex spacesuit and IIRC the instructions advised talcum powdering the inside of the suit for an easier time getting it on him as well as to stop it sticking to his body too much.
    Lightly dusting the working ends of your effects parts might possible provide a neutral barrier to plasticizer migration maybe? Could be worth a shot!
     
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    its a good idea but cheap tackel boxes and lures melting together and getting all gummy were really dirty from when i was a kid the dirt didnt hault the prosses it still did it so im assuming it be the same for the effects . but i could be wrong
     
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    Interesting! Yeah, I noticed Firedrive's effect pieces were occasionally stiff from the few I opened*, which did make me wonder what curing might do lol

    *I always buy the Battle Masters that come with two pieces for more options. Or at least I used to, it's now under review!
     
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    Thinking about this more and took a look at our Omega Supreme figure. The blast effect may have taken off just the paint and NOT affected the plastic.

    The plastic color itself is light gray and is painted black. Your picture shows black but not light gray on the blast effect.

    Any way you can take a picture from inside the nozzle?
     
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    my omega took som plastic with his effect was not much and you cant tell . but i had the other effects on som of the battle masters like lionizer got tacky and there is no paint on them where they connect . im hopeing with time the little bit tackiness will go away. it seems the bigger the surface area you have the worice it gets
     
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    Thats pretty much what the problem is with people confirming it. The Battlemasters themselves aren't affected by their effect pieces because for the most part those were cast in solid plastic with paint details only being added in tiny amounts such as like chest detail or the faces. The effect pieces aren't touching anything that paint is added too because its just plastic. However we have plenty of reports that if left attach to figures/weapons where it touches paint that for sure is causing a problem. Like someones example a few pages back with leaving a effect piece on their Siege Ultra Magnus gun. The gun has a hollow hole where you can tell it was original cast in red plastic and the silver paint was added later, so thats obviously causing problems, same with Omega's gun.

    The rubber pieces are defiantly affecting the Bludgeon and Demolosher molds because the rubber treads are touching areas constantly where paint was clearly added to the plastic after the fact. The CW Megatron mold if left in robot mode saves the figure because from what I can see and understand (could be wrong never owning a mold of the figure myself) the treads aren't touching anything with paint in robot mode.
     
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    My Banzaitron doesn't have Paint, and is affected.

    My not a Transformer, but still a Hasbro Toy, doesn't have paint there, and is still affected.

    Where Plastic and Rubber Contact, melt inconsistently.
     
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    The issue would be the reverse with Marvel Legends. There, the figures are rubbery. It’s playsets/based/accessories that the figures might damage.

    If Transformers were made 100% from rubbery material, the figures themselves would be safe. Some paints might be eaten away but PROBABLY not if they’re designed for application to rubbery substances.

    It’s the rubber/ABS contact that’s the issue.
     
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    I was just thinking how many of the ML figures now comes with blast effects or whatever, like 80th Iron Man, Hydro-Man and the upcoming Black Widows.
     
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    Unless Banzaitron was painted different (I don't have that version) where the treads are touching in tank mode (the feet) those areas the treads are touching is def causing problems. Too me that looks like paint that was added to plastic (atleast with Bludgeon). But I could be mistaken and am willing to be proven otherwise as we all make mistakes
     
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    I'll copy my answer from the other thread:

    Without a complete chemical analysis, I'm not going to commit to say if it's just paint or plastic, but if it's able to pull either, I wouldn't put any trust into the extent of damage I could end up with for any of my figures.

    So you can sit there and play such cards, but I'm not going to risk damage to any of my figures. I provided a notice to inform other members so that they may avoid damage to their figures, and if you have other confirmed information, please feel free to educate us.

    Someone else confirmed similar experience to mine, and at the point, if this happens after about 2 months, I have no reason to believe that this damage wouldn't be worse in time.

    But please, feel free to test this and tell us in 6 months from now.
     
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    So, we are safe to leave effects parts on the battlemasters they come with but not necessarily on figures where the port they attach to has paint applications touching?
     
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    i wouldnt i heard from a friend it dameged one of there battlemasters
     
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    So far, my Bludgeons and Gigatron show no signs, nor do any of my DOTM Voyager Shockwaves. For what it's worth I live in Las Vegas, where it's dry pretty much year-round. I wonder if that has anything to do with it.
     
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    I live in central FL so tons of humidity here during the year minus our 2 weeks of winter. Our A/C runs pretty much year round around 74-77 degrees. I'm just going to go ahead and remove all the effect parts after pics are taken for now until more info comes out about how to resolve this.
     
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    I assume it’s pretty humid there? How about inside with the AC? We have an indoor/outdoor temp/humidity and it rarely rises above 10% through the year. Usually keep it around 70 degrees year round.
     
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    Outside humidity during spring-summer time it's crazy high like 90% and above is normal around here which even with A/C running in the house it still gets toasty. It's really difficult to escape the heat here, my car despite waxing it bi-weekly still ends up with faded paint and even had plastic coating start to crack from heat exposure. I do keep my figures in a shady area of the house that has good ventilation being in a wide open room so I am not overly worried about them warping due to heat.
     
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    I only displayed 2 figures with blast effects but I pulled them out immediately after reading this thread

    Can confirm small amounts of plastic/paint stripped away from the inside of Siege Jetfire's thrusters (non painted parts) and Sixgun's (painted) thrusters. :( 

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    Temperature ranges where I live has been varied and the office where they are kept is airconditiond during the day in the mid 20's with minor variences (centigrade).
     
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    I'm wondering if this phenomenon would affect Fanstoys Sovereign? His blaster effect part is soft, rubbery plastic. If anyone is displaying him with the blast part in, might wanna check it.