The Official Rant Thread

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by Capirus, Jul 31, 2018.

  1. Night Flame

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    This ranks right up there for me with the preorder listings having reviews that are five stars that just say, "It's gonna be awesome!" How do you know, nitwit? Settle down and save the reviews for when the item is in hand. Otherwise it's just more useless noise on the internet.
     
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  2. Leopold Xerovsky

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    Universe has one more than classics, but one fewer than generations, while also possibly implying a broader range of characters than just one continuity.
     
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    Good point, and Universe(2.0) had a great range of new sculpts and redecos. A fun line.
     
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  5. Siege Fan

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    Had to bow out of the RiD cartoon, got to child Bumblebee in the first season and it was just the last straw. The writing is either great or awful with no in-between and animal Decepticon of the week is DULL.

    I really hope Netflix WFC is still actually happening.
     
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    Original Gobots are better than post-87 g1 transformers. I know you all have nostalgia for targetmasters, but Jesus Christ, there isn’t much fun in a robot that looks like a robot and turns into a space-thing with wheels. Half of post-87 figures are literally just “lets make a statue and figure out how to make it fold in half and have some bits flip in. Ok, now stick some wheels/wings on, add a cockpit/windscreen and we’re done.” No attempt is made to hide a robot or make a car turn into one, it’s just a garish mess on wheels. if those figures were released in 1984, Gobots would have had a landslide victory.
     
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  7. LoneDragon

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    I don't mind when I order something, it ships and takes 2 weeks to get to me but it really bothers me when I order something, get charged and then they twiddle their thumbs for a week before shipping it and it gets here in like 3 or 4 days. Is that weird?
    Like when I say I don't care how long shipping takes as long as I get the lowest price, that doesn't mean don't send it until you feel like it.
     
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    Yeah but they weren’t so it didn’t.
     
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    Oh good...not quite a week. I was charged on Friday and it finally shipped today.
     
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    It's comical that at twice the size and triple the price, almost none of the deluxe cars or jets were better either.
     
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    The tone you’re taking indicates that you agree, but wish you didn’t.
     
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    I'm going to do a few reminders on the threads about the Siege blast effects being a problem as they do indeed melt the plastic, so to spread this information to members.

    I highly recommend that you do not leave the blast effects in your figures.

    More on this, and pictures about my sad discovery:
    PSA: New toy plastic condition discovered (melted soft rubbery parts)
     
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    Is the same kind of plastic used for the new cyberverse effect parts? If so we may be able to cry "child safety hazard" since that's the kid focused line.

    As for a rant (of sorts), my miffed-ness with distribution (in particular my walmart not stocking smalls anymore) is getting to the point where I'm looking for alternatives to soundwave and his amazing little friends. And alternatives to everyone else, now that I consider it.

    I dig the 80's super robot aesthetic to death, but I'm starting to get kinda woozy at the scope of all this and how it plays too well with the collector in me. "Everyone has to be so tall, and they had all these accessories in the show, and they were friends with this one other bot for two episodes so I need them both, oh and wen trailer", it's getting kind of silly, and scary. Gets me thinking of what I really want:

    I want that 80's - 90's anime robot aesthetic in decent quality transforming figures that peak at a 15cm robot form, have decent range of posing (articulated hands aren't a big deal to me, but swappable hands would be cool) and some fun interplay between them. I don't need tape decks, I don't need trucks with trailers, and I don't need space laser pistols disguised as submarines. I need something with a nice stopping point in sight that'll let me breathe before diving in again.
     
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  14. Strykerprimex

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    I guess I'm not the only one that has been dissatisfied with the fact that as a transformers fan that Hasbro has been completely inconsistent with a lot of their toy schedules, designs, strange shady dealings with their distribution sellers (i.e. Toys R Us)
     
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  15. Siege Fan

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    Beast Wars fans need to stop blaming G1 fans for lack of BW product. That's on Hasbro. Yes, you should be getting official product, absolutely. But blaming fellow fans? That says more about you, frankly.

    If G1 wasn't the most successful thing Hasbro could be doing from the decades-old canon they wouldn't be doing it.

    Also, you're old as shit in terms of the main audience in a big box store. Does Hasbro think it could sell BW to kids? That's what next year may or may not allegedly come down to.

    FFS, why do you think MOTU, TMNT, Thundercats, Power Rangers or any other IP sticks to it's OG story? Because anything outside of that is a damn blip in company terms, successful or not.

    Bottom line, BW fans should absolutely be catered to because it's Hasbro shortsightedness otherwise longterm, but blaming other fans is absolute BS and just makes you look like a zealot.
     
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  16. Kaynowa

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    I won't argue you point as I am not knowledgeable enough to do so intelligently. However, I feel these are bad examples. TMNT has updated quite a bit, with each series being distinct enough from each other and not very often looking back to the originals outside of a few nods. Raphael I believe only became the hardass in the early oughts, rather than a more quippy fighter closer to Michaelangelo. Power Rangers visits a little.bit of everyone equally, except for rare instances like the movie. Even then, they're more likely to mention only Tommy than the whole original cast. MOTU and Thundercats I don't think have a big enough sample size to say they "only stick to OG." There's the OG, a reboot cartoon, and Dolph Lundgren in the former's case. If I'm wrong about any of this, I'd love to know more! Just, from what I know, not the best examples.

    A little more relevant to your post, I'd love to see the sales numbers for.other figures decidedly NOT G1 or BW, like the T30 Armada Starscream, in comparison to other G1 guys.
     
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  17. Siege Fan

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    I should have explained better, basically everything I listed is a mere variation on the original source material - TMNT is based around the original comics so much that where Shredder wasn't being used, the Utroms (Krang to the OG cartoon fans, but the Utroms generally create the Mutagen) were. Anything that was outside of that failed, like the third movie or Next Mutation. Though admittedly I've no idea how the female turtle is doing in IDW lol, Rise hasn't exactly set the world alight. Oh, and Raph was always the hard-ass, even by the 1990 movie. But I'm a total TMNT geek alongside everything else I'm into!

    Thundercats has never gotten away from them being exiles with Mumm-ra looking to take advantage of the wider scenario, whatever the given medium to my knowledge. And that's a property that has seriously struggled since whatever the medium. Mostly through lack of overall faith hobbling the potential, IMO.

    Power Rangers is basically the same show whenever you're watching it. There's always slight variation around a new paper-thin theme, but only to sell you the same core heroes with newer villains, like most properties.

    In MOTU's case, the cartoon and OG mini comics are a blend because 1980s winging it.

    What I'm getting at is BW is much more of a leap than the above IPs ever attempted. And that frightens a decades-old company.
     
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  18. Kaynowa

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    Thank you for the explanation! Outside of the aesthetics (which, yes, for toys, is 100% the only thing going for them. Few kids want the toys for who the toys represent unless it's the top 4, they just want fun toys. Just being as fair as I can be to either side), Beast Wars from a story perspective is not that far off. You have Optimus leading a crew of heroic robots against Megatron and his forces on an alien planet and a need for disguises via an alternate mode. No more different than any Power Ranger or TMNT season, in my eyes. You may see it as more than that, Hasbro may as well. I don't know. And honestly, I hate Beast Wars. And G1 at this point. As I said earlier though, I'm just trying to be fair to the series and their fans.
     
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  19. Siege Fan

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    Appreciated!

    It's actually the aesthetics that make BW such a relative leap, IMO. Within seconds you'll know you're watching or looking at a version of any of the above IPs, but BW? It went from metal to organic(-looking). That makes it a toy risk compared to the proven smash that is G1. And kids don't know/care if they're watching a G1 iteration, but the big question is are they interested in animals in this day and age? I honestly don't know the answer to that.

    To put it all into some kinda perspective, just about every successful property from the 80/90s had an animal theme going on... Hasbro might as well try it, but it's not like they aren't struggling to give us MASK, GI Joe, and then all the other IPs they just bought, so...
     
  20. Kaynowa

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    Oh trust me, I'm aware of how important the aesthetics and looks are. I think the faces help a bunch, especially Optimus keeping the blue, horned helmet and bucket headed Megatron. I'd be very curious to see how well a Voyager OG Primal and Megatron sell, if those are any substantial difference than, say, Rhinox. Every kid knows who Optimus and Megatron are. I'd wanna also see G1 names on BW designs for the purposes of selling the toys to today's kids. Ironhide as Rhinox, since they're the big guys with guns. Starscream as Terrorsaur, Scorponok as Scorponok, Arcee for Airrazor, things like that. Get the toys designed and sold for the Beast Wars fans to buy and have their beloved renditions while giving kids the names and characters THEY know and dupe them into buying more things. Not like anyone here takes the box names to heart (Slag v Slug, RIBFIR FIRRIB, etc.) Yay tangents.