Mine is J1719/12619 and so far no cracks or breakage

I dont know if those ard good numbers or not lol

 

Mine is still holding like a champ.

 

And there we go. Hairline cracks finally appear at those back leg hinges.

Im not sad. Actually i was done transforming him for the last time. Now he will spend the rest of his life in bot mode because he excels at it. Hope he will remain good as he is now.

Takara , i pray for you , step up. You missed this chance, but you can still fix it.

 

I decided not to clip the back leg panels closed. I was afraid to say this, as somebody will no doubtedly refer to it in two pages with some inane hyperbole, but I feel the primary reason that back hinge is cracking is because of the stress it’s in when clipped closed. I just close it most of the way so that he still looks fine.

 

Reading Chohenken's review, his Hound had breakages even after normal handling, a few may have been out of the box.

He thinks the ABS plastic used is weak. Since it was thin and possibly painted with a paint that had corrosive solvent, he thinks the paint made the plastic even weaker, not helped by the fact that said pieces are hinges where force is applied.

He does think that though it's safe to play with Hound to some extent(and given that these are aimed at older fans), you still have to be mindful of areas that are prone to breakage. I think he said the same applies to MP-44/45 but that those 2 still felt safer. He thinks an entirely different team worked on Hound.

He misses the way Hasui-MP's were, he thinks even if MP Hound didn't have a complicated/delicate transformation, there's still a simpler/different way to make Hound. He can't help it but feels like saying he wants a Hound that can be played with like Prowl/Wheeljack in the "flow(style? transformation process?)" of MP-10. He said he feels alone in this respect.

He also said if you buy it or already have it, to be careful. He's wondering about the future as he said 2019 MP's were always worrisome and he wants Takara to reconsider the meaning of the word "Masterpiece".

 

a cautionary tale to those like me who still have good copies. Best to not push one's luck with this figure I suppose.

 

I would be disappointed if they went back to the Hasui stuff, those transformations looking back now didn't have any finesse or delicacy to them. Not delicate in a bad way, but is something didn't align right or wouldn't fit right you could simply mash or force it together. That's not bad, but fitting for something more for kids versus a grown adult. If anything the newer Mps have made the older one easier to transform.

 

I remember when Maz sold off his masterpiece collection. As I read his article explaining why, I thought he was making a mistake. Now, in hindsight, he seems more like a herald. Warning us of troubling times in the line.

 

Hasui transformations tend to be fluid and intuitive but my qualms with his designs were hindered articulation.

Hound here has brilliant engineering by whomever the hell designed it but whatever brilliance is in the design is dampened by bad qc.

 

i miss the Hasui MP's

 

this is where it's drawing the line to the collectors.
Do you want just cool robot but don't care about toon model and articulation ? Old MP cover you.
But now they want to pursue new direction. Not helping when Bandai also release the new Chogokin action line which doesnt care about combine gimmick but just give it ultimate articulation while also have diecast. So Tak want to do also but instead of diecast they put their engineering to the top.
In all honesty ? If the material and QC is incredible like old day , these new designs can beat the shit out of any toy lines. We are not ready for this

 

Nah Takara just needs to accept that leaks/theft are going to happen unless they are willing to production back to Japan where it can be more closely monitored. These toys are already costing more, might as well.

Shit plastic not caught due to delayed assembly to prevent theft makes Takara look bad. I think they're engineering is better than Bandai but shit plastic can sink that.

 

I decided to transform without instructions or video. It's intuitive to a point, but I could only get so far before I found myself wanting to watch a video due to not wanting to push my luck.

In the end I just went back to bot mode. I know that sounds stupid, but I didn't have time really and to be fair I worked all the hinges except the inner parts of the feet. I know - the tailgate is one of the issues, but I reckon I'm safe....

I had shock oil all over my hands. I put it in the joints a week ago and it was like doing it an hour ago. All the pins moved smoothly, so it stands to reason that the same will happen in the feet.

I flexed the joints back and forth too, so it doesn't need multiple goes either. If it's gonna stress and/or split then it's gonna do it.

I think there's two issues:
1. Shit plastic. If it's gonna happen it'll happen
2. Tight or misfired pins. Seems like shock oil loosens them up enough, and dremel works too.

I'm currently fairly satisfied I just have 2, if at all, and it's my own fault for not unscrewing the armature screw enough when it felt tight. If that crack is all I have wrong, I'm saying I got a good one. Or I got a 2 and got ahead of it with oiling it up.

Unless he disintegrates standing still, of course!

 

I've only had time to transform my opened copy twice and back, but I do check on him every other day; he seems to be holding steady, no cracks or breaks at all, but I have loosened the armature screw due to the pics I've seen of cracks forming there. My brother's copy was fine out of box, but after a few days his copy had a crack forming there.

I still love him, but I can't help feeling like I paid $110 for a modern Action Master.  

Oh, he's not alone feeling that way.

 

No, absolutely not. I completely appreciate what Takara is doing with the modern line and, whatever issues there have been, I think the designs are genius. But personally I would much rather an old skool MP carbot that sacrifices some of the accuracy in favour of playability. Love nothing more than chilling on the sofa in front of the TV playing with an MP that is instinctive, simple and clever to transform. Feels like an increasingly lost art.

 

i felt the same way a long time ago. not only are the figures getting less 'fun' but everytime TT reboots a line with a major figure, you are forced to decide whether to fall in or not. you fall in, you fall prey to TT for another around of reaming of your wallets with more and more expensive figures and the devaluation of your old figures; if you don't, then subjectively and objectively you might feel like you are missing out on some imaginative or real improvements. i am also in the process of selling off my MP collection with the exception of a few that i really like. The way TT is going you know they are trying to go Hot Wheels pricing and gouging except that Hot Wheels figures generally offer a lot more in value.

 

upon coming back to this thread and seeing everyone have all these issues made me very happy that i only transformed mine once and stuck him on a shelf to never be touched again.

 

Genius!  

 

Yeah, I would gladly trade off the entire hood/head/missile design for a more Hasui-centric design.

Having that incorporated was comely unneccessary and ruin a major part of the aesthetic. Imagine Sideswipe or Wheeljack would that absurd feature. Too much Hubris on TT part when it came too that.

They really need to go back to some basics rather than be "look at how smart we are" designs.

 

I'd agree with all of this.