don't forget DCU Cheetah situation/fiasco not to be out done by plenty of belts but Marvel's Tigra knows better lol
facial structure and the eyes are the two most important aspects when creating likeness for anything. look at the usage of space between the three. two of them have extremely similar usage of space. one of them does not. so why do you think two of them have had such attention to detail in terms of making sure the amount of space the eyes occupy was done correctly? 1. is because of what i mentioned above (this is stuff they teach you during gradeschool btw during arts and crafts) and the other why hmm could it possibly be because they are thundercats? and i do seem to remember the 'eyes' being a very significant thing for that particular race. (maybe that's why in every single piece of official art you can find ever they have been drawn in a way that they are a prominant feature on every single thundercats face) i mean the ljn toys may look like a pile of garbage in terms of sculpt quality, but guess what every single one of the thundercats have clear, big visible eyes (just like lion-o and panthro does from the classic line) that is the major reason that face invokes nothing of the character it's supposed to depict, because the eyes have the wrong shape but more than anything they are to small. visibly so.
@lumax I wonder if Super 7 is using the 4H to sculpt the new figures? Lion-O, Panthro, Jackalman, Pumyra, regular Mumm-Ra... all of those guys were based on 4H designs (and I believe Jagga and Grune were as well even though they were never released by Mattel). A less experienced studio doing the sculpting could why such mistakes are being made.
i believe super7 and 4hm both confirmed it is still 4hm sculpting the figures. you are correct though that all of those characters you mentioned are from the mattel era (including jaga and grune) and it's not unlikely they had started sculpting tygra and mumm-ra the everliving back then aswell. (given that jaga and grune both were supposed to be included in the mattel wave 1 but got pulled last minute) as for the quality, i have no idea what is going on. could be that 4hm have lost personel and that the new people aren't as good as the ones who left, or it could be down to what super7 are willing to pay 4hm to make these sculpts. for the price they are asking per figure, it needs fixing though.
Also there was some kitty porn too with the kittens. Sorry I could resist. I remember seeing the episode back then and was like “oh damn”.
The hair style actually reminds me more of the 2011 version of Tygra than the classic version... so weird.
It does look a little like Bengali with the hair pointed down but I still recognized it as Tygra. I don't really have a dog in this fight though. I preordered Jackalman and I'll probably get Cheetara and Snarfer if they get that far. The time for me to go all in on a Thundercats line was 10 years and $20 ago.
I hope we get to CN Thundercats, i enjoyed the Modern Designs over the 80s classics but i know i'm in the minority here
Guys, some photobash tweaks that I shared in another forum. Tygra should've more precise colors and a better and more detailed head sculpt, I used the HH head sculpt here with some modifications, it seems to me a better representation, it doesn't necessarily have to be exactly this one, but it is a good direction IMO. The FH made the mane more similar to Bengali's and the color transition from the arms to his hands is very abrupt, I made a change too. I think that the sculpture of the torso also needs a revision, I made a small adjustment to his trapezoids that are too bulky and thinned his forearms. In Mumm-ra I used the same armor torso sculpt for Grune, I think it's the most accurate that the 4H did if we compare it with the anatomy design (official animation guide). It's something very important that can be taken into consideration if we are still on time. I think it improves the aesthetics a lot and makes it even more accurate, I like it a lot, those wide abs are a bit out of place.
Given the shipping costs from Super7, BBTS is actually the cheaper option. Customer service likely better there, too.
I'm scratching my head on the inclusion of Pumyra. A quick eBay search shows this character's Mattel release readily available for less than S7's 45$. It wasn't popular the first time around-- not sure how they hit their number on her with a re-release. I pre-ordered Grune, Mumm-ra, and Tygra on BBTS, but to be honest I'll probably cancel like I have on most of the S7 figs. 45-60 dollars per figure on obsolete bodies is hard to stomach and I've ended up talking myself out of all their releases so far with the single exception of Shadow Weaver. Consider another 8.5% for sales tax nowadays, it's a bit much for the quality.
They're making her shorter, like they did with the Sorceress and Teela, to scale better with the male figures. The Mattel Pumyra was too tall. I'll probably be offloading my Mattel Pumyra for pennies at some point. Also, Super 7 wants to stretch out interest in this line before giving us what we really want (Cheetara). Hopefully, the line will survive long enough. I'm not totally scale obsessed, but the Mattel scale was a bit wonky even for me.
Yeah get the kinks out on Pumyra before Cheetara. I don’t mind the old body-type at least it’s not so articulated it looks like shit.
Ah, that makes a little more sense then. Mine are still boxed, so I never noticed her height relative to the others. I do remember that Mattel release was on clearance forever.
For all Super 7's QC crimes, I thought they did a nice job remolding some of the female sculpts (like Sorceress and Shadow Weaver) and correcting some of Mattel's mistakes. For example, the much improved face aside, the Super 7 Sorceress replaced the ugly waist cut with the more subtle chest ball joint. Little things like that go a long way, at least for me. The upper body looks so much better as a result. I would hope to see such improvements on their Pumyra as well, but I'm not holding my breath.
seeing that what they did with mumm-ra 100% this is intentional aswell. ''some middle of the road'' hybrid they can reuse for bengali. super7 doesn't give a sh1t about this ip.
Speaking of Tygra, I may change my mind once I have the figure in hand, but for now, it doesn't seem like the S7 Tygra is really much of an improvement over the Bandai one (other than being in the proper scale). Something a bit weird about the bulked-up chest/shoulders/traps on the S7 version. I think the Bandai version does a better job of conveying Tygra's toon proportions.
