Masterpiece HOUND MP-47

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by oku, Jul 28, 2018.

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  1. Phamduc

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    Hold on , im rechecking some stuffs then will write. This will be long.
     
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  2. stevej

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    "Son, your design team's writing checks your factories can't cash!"

    Sorry, watched Top Gun again recently.
     
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    I'm guessing the cracking leg panel has to do with transforming it in the exact order detailed in the instructions or not. As at least that's what happened with mine. As there is too much pressure put on the panel if it's not secured by the other panels, so when I partly transformed the leg and then extended the foot, it was too much pressure on that one panel (rather than having the pressure spread across all 4 sides of his leg, it was channeled to just that one part.
     
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  4. Chris C137

    Chris C137 Have some self respect. Take the QC sticker off.

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    @Phamduc you big tease, I spot that Smokescreen+ on the edge of the last picture there! :D :p 

    Glad your Hound is mostly OK. The bot mode and matte paint looks amazing right?
     
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    I followed the instructions studiously... Although I didn't see the extra insert that includes additional instructions until AFTER I'd transformed him. I don't know whether the crack was there out of the box unfortunately but I did only notice it the day after I'd transformed him.

    There are some incredibly tight joints on the feet and on all those lower leg panels I just don't think that the main 'shin' panel is up to the task of holding everything together. Alas it's possible that I was so worried about supporting the joints where the pins are during transformation (as they seem to account for most breakages) that I put too much strain on the shin... But as I've said before I'm not new to TFs by any stretch of the imagination so there was no force applied that couldn't reasonably been applied to pretty much every other figure I own.
     
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    *sigh* I got mine on 12/31 and it's been sitting in jeep mode ever since. I've been patiently waiting for Emgo's review to transform it because I find his instructions the most thorough.

    But honestly I've been thinking real hard lately about just returning it now. I keep thinking that even if mine doesn't already have a crack, and even if it doesn't crack when I do finally transform it, is it just a ticking time bomb on my shelf waiting to crack some day for no reason? And quite frankly my eyes aren't good enough to scan the entire figure for some small, barely visible, hairline crack, in some microscopic hinge or seam.

    I'm really thinking that this figure, at this price, isn't worth the aggravation and stress it's causing me. :(  :( 
     
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    It may be best sell it then. I feel dirty for saying this... but the inevitable KO may be the way to go with this figure. Eww....
     
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    Interesting, if strange, take. It's simple really - the line won an award, so now they can mention that on the packaging of new products in the line. No different to any other product packaging or marketing proudly stating 'award winning...', 'voted best in...', etc etc based on some previous award, which is pretty common to see. The award was for the entire line - not just a specific previous figure, so it's not misleading to put it on new products. I'm not seeing the lie. I'd even argue the quality of design now is even better than when they won the award. Just a shame about the manufacturing currently, though.
     
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  10. Phamduc

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    you are right. The design is excellent . It's the manufacturing procedure that hurts the figure badly. I'm covering it
     
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    Yeah...took me awhile to finally come around. Tbh I’m both amazed and disgusted that TakaraTomy can’t serm to get it right the “first time” round.
     
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    This happened to me, except it was broken all the way through. i'm not sure if it was broken clean in the box, or was broken when I first swung out the seats.
    I think it's a silly design to have the entire foot be attached to the main figure by just that one flat piece.
     
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    Oh I figured it out! They just wanted the repaint to be real-world accurate!
     
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    I don't disagree here. The gun storage is very cool, but I'd have been totally happy if it just plugged in, or stored in the bed of the Jeep as well.

    Leaving that out could have significantly increased tht structural integrity of the leg, and maybe even allowed the gun to be just a little bit bigger.

    I think it's just been the screw joint, right? I don't think I've seen any report for the other joints in there.

    Likewise, I thinks it's just been the tailgate hinges on the feet, more commonly the longer one that holds the spare tire.

    Which is also why I think it's so strange, it's been a particular set of hinges that are affected.
     
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    See, I may be wrong but "long life design" should not include crumbling out of the box. If you want to argue it's a manufacturing issue... well, one doesn't exclude the other. You should be designing around the manufacturing process or manufacturing around the intended design specs.

    So, yes. It's a lie to plaster "long life design" on a product that isn't lasting a week.
     
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    Right...buts it's not referring to Hound specifically, or really talking about the longevity of the product. It is, for sure, ironic in the wording in Hound's case though.

    But it's a Lifetime Achievement type of award to the Transformers Masterpiece line as a whole (I think it's just the MP line, right?). It's an award that TT has won as a collective of their work, so they get to post on future products that had nothing to do with the award from the past.

    It's like when actor "Bob Smith" wins an Oscar. Even if his next 2 movies bomb terribly you can bet the previews still say "with Academy Award Winner Bob Smith". Or when the preview says "From the studio that brought you *insert hugely popular movie from last year*"
     
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    Hound, BW Megatron, Dinobot, Sunstreaker... MP-44. Pretty much the majority of those figures using "new designs" since that branding has been stuck on the box.

    I believe this would be considered hubris more than an actual achievement.
     
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    Not sure what page it was on.

    The ridge around the peg hole for the gas can has an indentation in it that allows the gas can to rotate 90 degrees - but in the wrong direction. As it’s molded you have to pull it off the peg a bit to rotate it the correct way to store in the foot. As a result, it can’t fit snugly in there without a gap.

    so you shave away the ridge in the other direction to allow it to rotate properly.
     
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  19. Chris C137

    Chris C137 Have some self respect. Take the QC sticker off.

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    Takara didn't make the award up and give it to themselves. They are showing the award that was bestowed upon them by an independent party. Having the label on the box doesn't mean that that specific figure won an award. They won an award for their designs, which they are advertising on their packaging. Unless you're saying they didn't win the award, or that the award title itself isn't legitimate (in which case take that up with the adjudicators, not Takara), then they're not lying.

    No one's defending the issues that have been fairly common on this figure, but to say Takara are lying about the accolades they have received is a strange bone to pick.
     
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