Mine is that while the Autobots and Cybertron were made by Quintessons, it was Primus that compelled them to do so in reaction to Unicron compelling Primacron to make him a body in that dimension. I theorize that there was something about the dimension that G1 takes place in that made it extremely difficult for them to enter into. Primus made a way for the Transformer race to break free of the Quintessons but Unicron infected the warrior faction to create the Decepticons to destroy the Autobots. Autobots got the Matrix of Leadership to fight Unicron when he finally arrived to enslave and destroy both.

 

I'm pretty sure that 3h comics did that as a origin story. It was always interesting to me

 

I never read them, lol. I was always a cartoon kid so I never seen the comics until the more recent IDW stuff. Still, if they did something like that, maybe I should check them out.

 

Purple "potato" = camote

 

Purple Yam...

 

They weren't bad, but they were interesting. Note that this story was taking around the time of beast machines. It wasn't exactly the same but similar to the story you wrote

 

Disclaimer: thanks to "multiverse" and "personal taste" NOTHING is "the" true story... everything has a place
That being said...

The Quintessons are one of the worst concepts as an origin story. It makes the entire race of Cybertronians boring. Sentience (accidental or otherwise) leads to rebelling against one's creator(s)... when has that ever been done before or since? It means:
Autobot or Decepticon, none of them are more than Johnny 5 from Short Circuit.
YAWN.
That Will Smith film with the robots is the origin story of the Transformers?
Boo.
SkyNet's Terminators are actually just active protoforms utilizing Action Master (non-transforming), Pretender (robot form encased) and Maximal/Predacon (synthesized organic layers) technologies.
Ugh...
(This film pre-dated the g1 cartoon's stupid, flimsy, lazy re-hash adoption of the concept for the Quintessons, so eff anyone's chronology excuses.)

Making them a race of LESS importance to Cybertron than humans, Nebulans, Alteans, Time Lords, Valorians... that would be the best direction to continue.

Now with Primus and Unicron? That actually resonates with established spritual cultures that believe every soul born on a planet is also born OF that planet. One's soul (spark) is mainly of their planet lf origin, but adopts elements of their birth planet as well - see the g1 cartoon dinobots and the eventual cybertronium problem  

Returning to the source (the Matrix), having lived "good" or "evil" enriches the source regardless, and places a responsibility (albeit implied and strictly moral/social one) on the individual to live out their time in a manner that makes their contribution to the Source a beneficial one.

I will agree that TF: Cybertron's thing that their home planet literally transforms into their Creator's body is equally shallow to the Quintesson concept in that it is just copying an existing idea, but it is just a case of going in a correct direction for an incorrect distance.

Unicron wants to dominate or destroy the universe.
Primus wants to be among, understand, and belong.

When it comes to the Quintessons, retcon them into something far less boring than what they were in the g1 cartoon, or drop them completely. Or replace them with another similar conglomerate done a bit better: the Covenant from Halo.

 

Waaa waaa waaa

 

Blablabla.
Primus was always one of the worst concepts in TF history and there was nothing interesting about that embarrassing fanfic club-comic.

Everybody always hated how boring Primus was. If it wasn't for that British guy and his buddies pushing the idea it would have died like it deserved to.

Just like Primacron that Brit's contraption turns the Transformers world into a small insignificant thing limited to earth and Cybertron.

Even as a kid I knew Primus was boring and lame.
"Blablabla I'm gonna create a light and darkness god because I'm out of ideas and I hate the cartoon. Blablabla."
 
That's what happened in Marvel UK, and it should have ended there.

Meanwhile the Quintessons connect the Transformers story to an entire universe.
Quintessons had client states all over the place and turned season three into the great scif-fi epic Transformers should always have been.

That's why it's so great that Hasbro is finally reclaiming the Quintessons and placing them back at the heart of the Transformers franchise where as core characters they belong.
It's really exciting that Hasbro is recognizing the importance the Quintessons have in TF lore as creators of the Transformers  
And there is no doubt that Cyberverse will give kids a chance to learn about these amazing characters.
The Quintessons are sure to draw loads of new fans into this franchise and.

 

I mean I find it way more interesting that the transformers have 2 god like beings and have a whole history of a matrix being passed down to the almost mythical primes who waged war on unicron and each other. (13 primes was a cool concept). Meanwhile I find the Quintessons boring as hell just being aliens that made robots, enslaved them, and the robots revolt. Plot has been overdone. The Entire point of transformers is that they aren’t just machines, they are living beings. The quintessons remove that and it annoys the hell out of me. I feel like they can still exist in some form, just not as the creators of the transformers.

Everyone has their own tastes, and I honestly think a good balance would be to simply include the Quintessons along side the Primus and unicron story and serve another purpose.

(also I recommend the covenant of Primus, interesting and cool read)

 

I prefer a more realistic origin... Keep religious nonsense out of transformers or give their origin a more plausible explanation (aka Quintessons or other higher beings).

 

Your looking at it in too simplistic a way. A religious aspect *to* something that is meant to be incredibly advanced technology where the concept of God is still present makes it more interesting. Think about it logically, creations born from technology that can live for millenias have a theological system, something that should contradict their very nature is instead embraced by them. It's not a veneration of technology like say the Mechanicus in 40k but instead it's a union of the physical and metaphysical if you consider their perspective. Sure, if explored in this modern era by someone like idw it would likely suck and be some cookie cutter garbage but if it had been expanded on in previous media you could of had some interesting ideas crop up.

 

...umm, i like "naturally-ocurring gears, levers, and pulleys"...

 

See, I like that, it's a solid ground work similar to the different races irl have. An origin myth. You could even develop it further and show how that specific mythos developed. The "naturally occurring gears" could seem to be naturally occurring to them but in fact developed by what you could consider manufacturing plants which in their eyes is infact a "natural" ecosystem, the environment itself providing the base for development of new life. As I said, if they let someone competent get their hands on the story writing you could have something incredible. Instead in modern times we got... Well the least said the better.

 

I for one, enjoy the concept of a primus. It's not horrible, and it adds a mystical element to transformers. However, I dont enjoy seeing primus overplayed to a point. I get the need to stick to a scientific origin for robots, but one key concept of transformers is a spark. That's already kind of spiritual. Why wouldn't the sentient bots have a religion. Humans have religions, despite supposedly knowing of our own evolution. I think primus should be used, but not overused. Like voices in a characters mind, or the implication another character had nudged someone into action. Keep the mysterious aura, but dont make it to mythical. But that's just me throwing my hat into this.

So if we're getting a shockwave into a ship, what else do you guys think we're getting?. Omega supreme into a shi?thoughts?

 

I grew up on Cybertron so I'm biased to Primus. I like having him as a counter to Unicron. The Shockwave ship is creative and I can't wait to see.it in color

 

Adding the religious aspect=the same thing humanity does by adding a self-important origin, feeding the need to think it HAD to be created with a purpose in mind.

The TF origin with the Q's works fine.  

 

I like this idea for a figure.
I hope he is the same height as the MMC: Cyclops.
Sort of a Steampunk to Silver age Sci-fi progression.

 

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