NEWAGE TOYS H-13 Lucifer - Legends scale STARSCREAM (and Seekers?)

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  1. Bezuul

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    Lots of reasons that presumably revolve around space and cost. For me I love that these tiny things have insane detail and accessories now days along with much desired flexibility that allows me to display figures without managing some crazy balance issues along with encapsulating a battle scene in all of a cubic foot.

    Plus I like the cartooniness.

    Oh, more reasons. Cause they scale well with Titan bots. Boom.

    And people change.
     
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    I would think a combo of expense, change in aesthetics, and concern of not completing a desired cast of characters (which may combine a bit more with the aesthetics thing, as in wanting everyone's styles to match). Specific to me, [edit: I haven't sold my MPs off, just stopped buying into them] it was cost. Though, Legends is certainly catching up to that in their own way (and if I admit it, MP was only a secondary line for me anyway).
     
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    No MP faith lost here... mainly collect MPs but get a few legends scaled figs to complement Omega, big combiners, and eventually city bots if they’re made.
     
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  4. RickyLeeSTF

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    MP sucks. Who wants to waste all that time waiting for the next entry? Who wants to waste all that money on a single piece? Who wants to waste all that space in a home?

    The level of engineering, paint, and sculpted detail on legends scale toys is rivaling that of MP scale these days. Part of the reason for my own past interest in MP scale was the pure G1 aesthetic coupled with the realistic alt modes. NewAge offers me just that, with the added fun of a simple yet ingenious transformation and scale that I find much more manageable and appealing.
     
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    I do it all the time. :lol 
     
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    Easily, I suppose. Most collectors I've known in real life seemed more interesed in the collecting than the thing they were collecting.

    And I'd do it myself. Not because I'm more interested in the collecting, but because I want a complete collection. I rejected masterpiece in part because it had become clear that there was no way they were ever going to finish. Had I started and continued to now, I absolutely would say nope, I'm doing this other thing (legends) now.
     
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    I guess that depends on why you started MP in the first place. I started collecting CHUG because it was the best I could get my hands on that wouldn't take up too much space or money. $400 Optimus is a bad joke to me. I've been dumping Classics / Henkei for Prime Wars almost every chance I get, and I'm still not totally satisfied with a lot of the designs. With Earthrise, I'll be close to completing a passable collection, but then here comes Legends. Between NA and MS, the look is way better than anything CHUG. Takes up way less space. Costs only slightly more. Scales better with combiners and titans. Besides the completionist in me (I'm so close!), I have no reason to keep collecting CHUG. Why are you still in MP?
     
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    I still collect MP but lost alot faith in official since the Takara coneheads (those things are such junk). Takara have had a few pearlers such as Sunstreaker and Inferno, but 3P has largely taken my interest of late for having better build quality and paint. As for the legends, the last 2 years have been awesome. Newage megs, bee, jazz and starscream, magic square prime, inferno and magnus, iron factory jetfire, megs and seekers, dx9 dinobots are all great representations, and they have much more playability than their MP counterparts.
     
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    Sure, I get the choice to collect a different line. I just don't get dumping your current collection. I wouldn't have collected MP at all if I weren't planning on keeping them forever.

    Yeah, I get not buying in any further than you already have. Just seems weird to put to much into a collection and then just be like, "Hm, yeah nah."

    Waste time? Do you just twiddle your thumbs between toys? I go to work, I watch movies, I hang out with friends, I spend time on the internet, and so on. What time am I wasting by waiting for toys? I love legends but they're no reason to dump an existing collection. Unless you just really need the money for the legends figures but if that's the case, I'm not sure how you could've afforded an MP collection in the first place.
     
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    Just to your bit about dumping a collection. I'm 36 and have sold my following collections which include full figure sets of at least 75% from age 14: Real Ghostbusters, Masters of the Universe, TMNT, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Armada, X-Files, LOTR, MOTU 2001, Spawn, Real Ghostbusters (again), Akira, Marvel Legends, McFarlane anything up to Sports figures... and I've currently sold a strong portion of CHUG figures and an insane collection of random LEGO sets and Mario Bros 4 inch figures. Not to mention comic collections of varying size.

    Generally I've been depressed in times I've amassed such collections and it happens quickly. I plan to maintain this G1 Legend collection (hopefully BW soon) due to the size and it's kinda like feeding the beast so I can control this demon I live with. It's one of many and I am coming to better terms with my collector behavior and outlets for why I want physical representations of fantasy.

    Translation: Insanity
     
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    Perfectionism. Like I said above, I want a complete collection. If I can't have that, I don't want a partial one. So yes, had I started out with masterpiece a decade or more ago, and then realised this year that no, I'll never be able to complete it, I absolutely would want to get rid of it. No matter how much I liked what I had, the inability to complete it would always be a sour note ruining it for me. I'm not collecting, say, Optimus Primes, or even a bunch of Transformers that really appeal to me; I'm after a complete specific set of characters. All or nothing.
     
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    Can someone take a pic of Lucifer with the 3rd party legends scale Rodimus prime to see how they scale?
     
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    Here he is with skywarp
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    I never imagined that people are collecting this way, it doesn’t sound fun to me. I only buy figures that I think are cool or fun. I really don’t want them all because then I would have to put money in stuff I don’t care for. So I skip figures happily (like the entire season 3 cast because I really don’t like their aesthetic). I really enjoy the figures themselves and everytime I walk past them it makes me stop and look at them with a smile, in awe of the engineering and fantasy.
     
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    What makes you think it'll never be possible to complete a G1 collection? Several of us are almost there. I'm only missing 11 figures from S1 and S2 (minus the Protectobots and Combaticons), all of which exist or will in the next few months, and I have the full TFTM cast. And, even if I decide I want to collect the Protectobots and Combaticons, I'm sure someone will do versions I like before long (Zeta's Combaticons suck and there's no announced MP Protectobots yet). And that would do it. Most MP collectors aren't terribly interested in S3 or beyond.

    But honestly that's not even the big thing for me. I just can't fathom dumping it after so much time and money put into it. Sure, you can get a lot of that money back by selling it but not all and it's not just the monetary value: if that were all it was, I wouldn't have collected them at all. I bought them because they mean something to me and I can't understand how that could just go away just because there are smaller figures available.
     
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    Do you keep everything you buy? Have your tastes in something never changed? Never thought something was cool but you just didn't need it anymore?

    That's a lot of questions at once, but not meant to be aggressive. :)  I asked them because there's a decent chance your answers would apply to something, even if it wasn't a collectable.

    A collection doesn't matter to me. What matters is what I get out of it.

    It's not that I buy bots with the intent of eventually selling them. I buy them with the intent of enjoying them. If they end up permanent, then cool, but if not then I'm not going to stress about it.

    I used to have a large CHUGTHULU collection, but I realized I had so many of them that I wasn't appreciating them. They were all stood on shelves, and so crowded that noticing the group was much easier than noticing the individual. I also rarely took them down and transformed them. They were just there.

    This was years before the whole "Does it spark joy?" thing, but it was basically that.

    A distilled collection would make for a better experience. Cream, not crop.

    So I decided to sell a few, and a few ended up being all of them.

    Part of it was, when faced with a mountain of bots and having to take ebay pictures for each mode AND doing so back to back for hours, it really shows a bunch of flaws and problems with the molds that I'd overlooked previously.

    But also, I realized my tastes had changed. I was leaning more towards higher standards of quality, and if I was only going to have a few bots then I'd want the best bots.

    That wouldn't stop me from buying a retail bot if I wanted it, but the hours of ebay pics would serve as a warning to be cautious. :lol 

    When NewAge came around, I realized I liked those a lot more. While I could appreciate the engineering in a complex MP, they weren't very fun to mess with. NA bots have great engineering AND they're fun.

    And the size! They take up less space, sure, but I just really like tiny things. :D  I had avoided official Legends bots because they were overly simple and lacked articulation, and MPs were already inching close to 'too damn big', so the size of NA bots is exactly what I want from Transformers.

    Cost is also a consideration, and not having to deal with paint chipping or overly fragile parts are also good.

    So I sold off my MP collection, and just like CHUG, it was a great decision.

    I'll still buy a CHUGTHULU bot every now and then. Those are more likely to get sold, but if it's for less than what I paid I'll just consider it a rental fee. I'm also not above selling some Legends bots, either if a better version comes out (MST Optimus, if NA does it better) or if I just want to further distill the collection (NA Smokescreen, because I like Prowl and Bluestreak better).

    So for me, I want a small collection of favorites. I can appreciate them more.

    And thanks to the great photographers and video reviewers, I can still appreciate other bots without buying them.

    There's all kinds of collectors, though. I have a few different hobbies, and my MTG friends are shocked at how much a tiny plastic giant robot costs, while my TF friends are shocked at how much a thin piece of cardboard costs. But the common thing in those, and the important thing, is what you get from them. The enjoyment, the experience, as long as that's there then buy what you like.
     
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  20. Ryan F

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    Nice that they got the fact that Ramjet’s canopy should be a slightly lighter grey than the other two, and that Thrust should have a lighter grey face than the others.

    However, big minus points for the colours on Thrust’s jet mode - it lacks the purple stripe on the front of the wings, and there should be no black, only dark grey.

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