Yeah. In the marvel comic book, there where no lithone children, but it was just as sad. The first reason I’ve gave is probably the real reason why they were thought of. They wanted death of men, women and children and it was easier to use robots. Although the Lithone may not be robots, but also part organic. Either that they are robots and just built their kids or have kids thanks to nanotechnology. The Lithonian and transformer children were cute and yet pretty silly, but they don’t brother me. Bots having breads and boobs are ridiculous too.

 

True true. I'm not contesting what you said, I know you're right. I'm just saying I think it's lame that they did those things.

 

As I said before the kids were adorable, but silly. Giving transformers a childhood makes them too human and you have fill in something to make them more alien. Although I don’t find them lame, but that’s my opinion. I don’t believe in good or bad concepts. Only how the ideas are executed that can lead to bad writing. I never saw the robotic kids as bad writing and still don’t.

Marvel Springer reminds me of the robotic version of the green giant. I’m not only one who thinks of that.

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I would say giving robots any type of family members is bad writing. Well more like badly executed one. It can work if done right. Literal childhood among transformers isn’t really problem or stupid, as long as they still have still their mechanical aspects, like being built and stuff.

 

Look no further than my signature for my thoughts.

Doesn't Omega Supreme count as one?

 

Aside from that.

 

Starscream is Loki. That is all.

 

Or as Lindsay Ellis puts it, “baby’s first Loki.”

 

I would say that there are ways to write transformers having a childhood. But the problem is that it doesn't make any sense for them to spend in diminutive bodies when they will have larger bodies later on.

 

That’s why a nonphysical childhood is way better and makes way more sense for them. It makes them both alien and yet still relatable. They’re physical adults, but are yet are treated and consider as kids by Cybertronian standards. They even act and may sound like one. Lio jr comes in mind.


However them being built into small bodies and later “grow” into bigger ones could make sense with the whole spark thing (I thank SMOG for this). Let’s say that you can’t put a small spark into a big body for it will cause problems, so it will have to start out in a small body before upgrading to a bigger body. I don’t think sparks expend (or do they?), but either that or robo pregnancy/egg laying.

But I still prefer them having a nonphysical over a physical one.

 

Those are both good ways to write a childhood for a TF. But what would the reason in-universe be for them to have one? In that last example for instance, why would a spark start out in a smaller size and need to grow larger?

 

If i may jump in on this...

I dont believe a spark neccessarily needs to grow larger, but it would if it either needed or wanted to, for whatever reason. Perhaps a newborn spark only has enough output during its early stages to carry a frame of a certain mass. Protoform stage perhaps? As the spark 'grows' it accumulates a higher charge/output/whatever you want to use here in order add functionality towards its desired purpose. Assuming the first additional function would be to transform, a sparks further 'growth' would lead to powering upgrades and add-ons be it more durability, or agility, or tech.

 

The same reason why we have a mental and social childhood. It gives them time to learn and to grow (nonphysical) over being thrown into the real in the snap of a finger. It’s probably the reason why cc and M.T.O bots ended up with mental problems. Of course there are probably reasons why and maybe that’s not the reason. Yes they’re program, but aren’t program with everything. There are still things they need learn. After all they do have schooling and even something similar to primary school in one continuity. Even robots in our world need to learn somethings, like walking. Why not program them to walk perfectly? I don’t know why, but my guess is that maybe robots and transformers can’t be program to know everything. It could also be during a time of peace and if there are plenty of older bots working to the community going on, transformers see no reason to rush the young ones into the real world.


As for why a spark needs to start out small...I have no idea. There’s no reason for it to start out small and grow, but I still see no reason why it can’t. Why do they have mouths when they can communicate and consume fuel without it?

 

It's true that there are equal reasons pro and contra.
I guess there could be reasons for Transformers to learn things. But that would mean can constantly learn new things.
I don't think that necessarily equates to childhood.

 

Okay back to random transformers thoughts.

Has there every been a bot or a con that transformers into a sheep?

 

I wish Hasbro would make up their minds as to which colors go to Rumble and Frenzy.

I'm curious as to why Blaster and his Cassettes are less popular and less likely to be put out then Soundwave and his Cassettes?

Do we have a submarine TF?

 

Isn’t Seaspray one?

 

He’s a hovercraft.

 

For the toy, Rumble is red.. from day one and stayed that way.

The cartoon screwed it up and a LOT of people can't move pass that. Rumble (G1)/toys - Transformers Wiki

The only time there's a "blue" one, it's because it's an homage to the cartoon's mix-up and nothing more.

Blaster was a third, even forth level character while Soundwave was a main one. I never cared about Blaster as he never had any appeal to me.

Submarine TF:

Deepdive
Deepdive (Cybertron) - Transformers Wiki

And "officially" it's one of Sixshot's alt modes.
Sixshot - Transformers Wiki

 

Do Transformers dream of robotic sheep?

How human is too human for Transformers? When does it go too far?

What if there were more femmes in the background, but never notice because they don’t look like girls.

 

And yet my daughter got a Red Frenzy and Blue Rumble from the Fall of Cybertron set. So those assumptions that Hasbro has always stuck to one color for each are incorrect.

Deepdive is interesting.