Rey isn’t a politician.
I don’t believe you’re guilty of your ancestor’s sins.

 

Isn't it canon under Disney that Leia's new republic ended up going to shit because it kicked her out because she was Vader's daughter? I'm pretty sure it is, and Vader is the guy who ultimately saved the goddamn universe.

 

...and.

 

Yes, same for Luke according to a guy I know that has read all of the books.

 

The movie never suggests Rey’s parentage isn’t a problem, in fact quite the opposite in the last scene of the movie... I don’t get what you are both driving at?

 

Why the fuck does Rey get to get away with that, when Palpatine is entirely irredeemable, when Leia and Luke caught shit for being the kids of the guy who ultimately killed Palpatine the first time? Double standards much?

 

Saw it, loved it, the hate for it is just stupid BS, and how the hell no one talk about by now?

 

You lost me. Leia’s political career is damaged, in the books not on screen, but she is still immensely popular and leads the Resistance. Rey doesn’t get away with anything. You know where she is at the end of the movie. I have no clue what you are talking about.

 

No, there's nothing wrong at all about Palpatine ursurping the Skywalker name by proxy. And that proxy never having to deal with the ramifications already confirmed to have been experienced by the offspring of a dude who was Palpatine's right hand man.

I think the problem here is that Star Wars was this massive, sprawling fictional universe that, while it had its flaws and inconsistencies, largely held up to scrutiny as a whole across virtually every kind of media possible - hell, they even made up an entire thing about a third Death Star simply to explain why Star Tours ends up doing a trench run.

That's no longer the case under Disney, where you have all of that existing stuff thrown out, in favor of a mixture of the worst parts of the EU (Palpatine coming back is, reportedly, just a crappier version of the already unpopular 'Dark Empire' portion of the original EU where he not only does come back, but it actually explains how he comes back...something RoS apparently doesn't do in the slightest, he's just around again somehow). Since I brought up Star Tours already, I'll bring up its current incarnation which is a complete mess because depending on the selection of events, you can have it where Finn is on Jakku and Crait simultaneously (and Cp30 is on the Starspeeder and Crait also simultaneously), or my personal favorite - the reverse time travel sequence where you start off with Kylo Ren attacking the star speeder and eventually end up crash landing in the middle of the battle of Naboo (which was before Kylo's mother is even born and Anakin is a child). Because the point of the new Star Tours isn't to really put you in the universe like the old one, it's to flash a bunch of recognizable characters and faces in front of you as fast as possible.

I'm not even that big a fan of Star Wars, honestly, and even I can tell the franchise really isn't being cared for as much as it used to. There used to be real effort in trying to keep things in a cohesive universe...now we have a bunch of films that went out of their way to render the original cast as a bunch of failures and an antagonistic force that has literally no goddamn purpose beyond being evil. Because really, what was the First Order even trying to DO with a fleet of miniature Death Stars? Kill literally everything for no reason? The Empire was simply 'control everything' because Palpatine was a control freak, symbolized by putting everything into a single planet-sized fortress weapon. But it didn't run the entire galactic economy into the ground out of pure spite which is what the FO clearly seems hell bent on doing by blowing up all the planets and thus destroying any source of funds and resources.

 

I think you're overestimating the amount of care and attention that went into keeping the Legends continuity internally consistent. I say that as someone who dearly loves that timeline.

Even just the six movies George Lucas made couldn't even keep themselves internally consistent with one another.

EDIT: Also, the reason given for the Empire and Palpatine in the Legends continuity was because he needed a strong military and hardened galaxy to survive a threat he had foreseen from the Unknown Regions, which was later written as/slightly retconned into the Vong.

 

It’s all so... unsatisfying. It all boils down to the fact that the Skywalker lineage endured so many ups and downs and so many trials and hardships. So much was lost and sacrificed with that family, life and limb literally given to try and restore order. Rey endured nothing, lost nothing, sacrificed nothing. She feels unchanged and unaffected by it all, like despite being so integral her actual life is barely changed because she’s such a nonentity. I have no idea what her actual feelings are on any of it because she feels less like a character and more like an avatar going through the predestined motions. It doesn’t feel like she ever makes choices so much as follows the plot as orchestrated by other characters.

Like, I ask this honestly and sincerely as someone who genuinely wants to know: what am I, as a viewer, supposed to get out of the ST? Now that it’s all said and done, what was the point?

 

Do we really need more Star Wars movies after the failure of the sequel trilogy? Only thing I am looking forward to is the Kenobi tv series. We don't need a Cassian Andor series and we don't need Knights of the Old Republic films either.

 

O.k.- I took a couple of pics:

This pic was taken on the set of Back to the Future 3. I am on the far left:

After this pic was taken I got his autograph.

To show it’s his autograph I have it next to an autograph of his in the book ILM: The Art of Special Effects:


And for S’s and G’s, I got Christopher Lloyd’s autograph:

 

Rey is not

Spoiler

Sheev. Just like Luke is not Vader. I don’t know how you are managing to twist this into Palpatine usurping the Skywalker name. Rey is rejecting her lineage it literally costs her, her life and she is choosing to be a Skywalker.

Beside the fact Palpatine created the “Skywalkers” in the first place.

How could she? She just found out. It’s not that far into her story yet. This all literally just happened. I don’t even get how this is an issue given the elapsed time. And use some Spoiler tags dude.

 

Yeah as much as people harp on the new canon Disney set up,the Legends timeline wasn't without it's flaws either. What I'm hoping at this point is that Lucasfilms will form now on take more on what's best about Legends and include it to the new canon along with adding new ones.

I dunno about Knights of the Old Republic not being needed since I still hear people say how much they want one. Besides with media such as the Mandolorian and Jedi Fallen Order being praised it's a sign that people still want to see more SW films just not right now from the looks of it.

 

She

Spoiler

dies. Seems like a sacrifice.

I would also bet she has a

Spoiler

Skywalker inside her.

my speculation.

 

TBH, Revan is such a blank that anyone can be in this armor. Gender matters only if there's Bastila and their daughter. But yeah, canonicaly Revan was a dude. Jedi Exile was a dudette.

 

But she comes back. So, y’know, not much of a sacrifice. (And it was a trite moment to boot)

Also she doesn’t have a Skywalker in her. Regardless of if she’s somehow pregnant (which I don’t believe she is) it sure as hell ain’t a Skywalker.