Earthrise Takara Tomy May release

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  1. rcho

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    WheelJack looks like a Cyberverse figure shrunk to classics with some added articulation. The arms, hands, and wings are just lazy engineering and the legs are so hollow which makes the figure look cheap. This is not good at all at first glance or impression with Earthrise compared to Siege. 
     
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    Oh where do I start...especially since I spent so much time responding to the last dude. In all honesty I am happy we are getting these obscure characters. As I explained in another comment, we would never see these guys in the MP line and while the MP line is great, some things about it suck. The price point is one of those things that sucks. And its also the reason why the MP line stays focused on mainline characters (for the most part) This is exactly the reason why I said smaller price point means more characters (which is a good thing) Im not sure why you didnt understand that but hey, oh well. Now whether those extra more obscure characters could hold their own without gimmicks like Seige Sideswipe and Prowl can is my argument. I say yes. If you really believe the generations line's target audience is kids (which I dont) then you should know by now that kids know like 8 G1 characters by heart. And trust me Mirage, Sideswipe, and Spinister (lol) arent on that list. Yet they get beautiful gimmick free figures. Why not Brunt ? Even better...why not Cog ? Cog has both a robot and vehicle mode and never became a bunch of guns like Sixgun. So why does Cog gotta get the moon boots treatment ? So basically because Sixgun exists, every citybot companion has to turn into a pile of parts ? Ill even meet you at the halfway, Brunt did turn into a bunch of parts. (Buildings for trypticon, not some stupid made up "pretend its a weapon" parts for other robots) If I yanked your leg off and pointed at you does that make it a gun ? Why would I need that if I already got two guns locked and loaded ? If I chopped off your limbs and used your torso as a shield, would that really be the best choice for battle ? For you to survive those shots and still be able to merge back to your robot mode, you must be made of some real strong alloy. Thats the type of bot I want fighting by my side, not breaking apart to turn me into some Goro type monster full of multi color parts. Thats just me. If you think it looks cool, just like Emgo says "its a thing you can do" although when he says that about gimmicks he is usually subliminally saying it looks dumb in my opinion. But if you grew up in the Unicron Trilogy era where gimmicks were a must have and the toys were actually being marketed for kids (not G1 gen x fanboys like today) I can understand your frustration with people who call for gimmicks to be abolished. But hey, Hasbro is going to do what sells. Lets see how well Ironworks sells. I actually like that concept. I would like to build a base for micromasters because its G1. But I have no interest in "weaponizing" my figures though. I just think it looks silly and forced. And as for poor Soundbarrier, like they say in the South, bless his soul.
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    I'm 48 years old.
    I didn't grow up in the Energon era.
    In fact, I'm not sure I ever grew up. :) 

    I don't like gimmicks when they get in the way of the character.
    I think Siege does a great job of this.
    Most of the figures are not compromised by the gimmick at all.
    You could not get a single Weaponizer and still have a great line.

    And I don't think the Weaponizers are compromised either.
    They work well in all three forms.

    As for the question of why do you need all these guns?
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    That's why.
     
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    Wheeljack looks so much better than the Classics version. I hope he's not smaller...

    The Japanese "Cybertron" text alone gives him bonus points.
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    One could argue that the "gimmick" of the "battle damage" paint compromised many of the Seige figures. They did for me.
     
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    Cog originally did split apart into two smaller vehicles, and his arms were partsforming, so Cog as a partsformer like Sixgun does make some sense. And giving a partsformer extra functions (like a weaponizer) just adds to the figure.
     
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    Sorry to split hairs, but I don't think that a paint choice is a gimmick at all.
    It doesn't require any engineering.

    Personally, I would rather the figures not have it, but it's not a gimmick -just a choice.
     
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    Forgive me if I’ve missed it somewhere, but do we have any pics of Wheeljack next to Siege Sideswipe - just to get a feel for how the inevitable Sunstreaker remold is going to match up?
     
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    I’m with you but also not. My first impression wasn’t great. But then you think compared to what..classics, UW..he kinda blows them away. He kinda has the same compromises all the generations figures have. These new figures tempt you to compare them to MP because of aesthetics but it’s not a fair one. So I think he’s pretty good now.
     
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    Hello!
    Why do you care about transformations if you don't play with your toys?
    By your own admission they're display pieces.
     
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    NYCC they were in a display together, but not displayed near each other. DSC07280.jpg
     
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    Same for the purple dude. He originally was made up from leftover parts and the cannon that came with Trypticon. Giving more functionality to them in my opinion is a good idea. I got 2 of them sixshot and the purple dude. Didn't bother me they are parts forming at all.
     
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    I am 41 and LOVE weaponizing. Hound dressed up with Cog parts is cool as hell to me and I can't wait for Ironworks. I don't think he works as well on Wheeljack as the Weaponizers in Siege did, but still cool. His base mode is cooler. I dig the ramps. I also think Cog, Brunt and Ironworks are among the coolest looking Transformers standalone in the WFC saga. Just a thought, if YOU think it looks dumb then maybe don't display them that way. I don't get collectors who buy the stuff and bitch about saying it's dumb. Some of us dig it.

    I hope they keep creating new characters anyway they can. To me this is the opposite of forced, instead of having a weapons cache the weapons are sentient and mobile armoring allies wherever and whenever. I dig it and appreciate the effort. It's different and gives me more in my opinion. I can see how it takes away from the character himself, but they are still cool and it's not like these are instrumental characters persay in the lore.
     
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    FROM HLJ
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    And exactly what gimminck does Seige Sideswipe have ? I dont count a gun and or a non-firing rocket launcher as being a gimmick. Granted the car mode might look better with less holes in it or if they used the system where the hole "popped back up" that was used in DOTM figures. Youre 48 and im only 43 so you got me on the age. But with that I ask when did the "gimmick" stop being transformation ? As far as tge guns I still say one good shot from onevgood gun is all you need. Kill the head and the bodys dead.
     
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    Never had a G1 Cog or Fort Max. I always assumed it was a full tilt style figure and Sixgun was a one off type figure. So how about the transforming car that comes with scorponok ?
     
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    The gimmick stopped being the transformation when the Constructicons were introduced.

    For Siege Sideswipe the gimmick is having the ports for the effects pieces, Battlemasters and Weaponizers.
    And I don't think it compromises that figure, or any of the other Siege figures at all.
     
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    Oh, I hadn\'t seen that steamshovel scoop on Ironworks before.  The more I see of that weird little figure, the more I\'m inclined to get one!
     
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    Hello !
    If something looks silly I call it like I see it.
     
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    I would argue that "combining" and "masters" (of any variety) are not a gimmick because they are homaging something that actually happened in the G1 cartoon. Ill meet you half way and say they were a gimmick in the 80s when the designers envisioned them with playability in mind. Now they exist for the sake of pure homage value. Fans had to beg for Hasbro to do proper combiners and headmasters for years because Hasbro doubted the playability value and hadnt accepted yet that adult collectors were the primart target audience. Eventually they woke up. However they still throw some BS in to try to pass it off as a toy for todays kids who are clearly into more high tech stuff by the time they get to the age we were when we loved TF in the 80s. But getting back to the "gimmick" concept, ill admit scramble city is a gimmick. Its a silly concept I never utilized and always displayed my combiners in their cartoon configuration. The same goes for putting different heads on other robots bodies. Never did it, never will. Im just a G1 cartoon kinda guy. I never got into that imaginary play thing. As a kid, I thought the cartoon was so cool I wanted it to be the standard that defined how I enjoyed my collection. Any of that playability stuff would touch my OCD and have me saying "that wasnt on the cartoon, thats just silly". I remain that way to this day when it comes to the basics. Im open to new concepts introduced in comics, manga, or newer cartoons. But Im pretty hardcore when it comes to them being adult collectibles. I get that for many they really are just toys. But in my mind looking at them as toys or adding playability to them ruins the awesome fiction I have stored in my head. I like to think of them as the cartoon coming to life in front of my eyes in a display, not some silly toys for kids to mess with that need all kinds of goofy features. Some might think im crazy for thinking that way. Others might totally get what im talking about and can relate to it. Either way that wont stop me from saying too much forced playability gimmicks look silly. Or as Emgo says, "its a thing you can do, its your toy". (In a somwhat sarcastic voice like damn this feature looks silly)