Minor/Repaint: Siege Ratchet, a cautionary tale in dying

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  1. Lunatic Prime

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    I'd suggest white or black or neon-green or -yellow as blue in combination with red is such a common Autobot colorscheme and doesn't look that G2-ish (to me).
     
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    That burgundy looks like exactly the same shade as CW Computron's hands and feet
     
  3. Venixion

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    Me too.

    Is there a way to cover up parts? I think dyeing is probably better if your doing the whole figure. If you just wanted to dye certain parts of him like his limbs maybe consider covering some of the parts you don't want dyed first in heavy tape and wrapped plastic and then dip dye him in a bag with a hole cut out? Otherwise I'd stick to just painting those parts. Not sure how you'd do that sorta thing with a pelvis.

    But I really do like the wine red and the purple. It looks good imo.
     
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    The figure disassembles easily, 3 screws hold the chest together, the hands are on mushroom pegs and the wheels pop out, the pelvis is glued into place.
     
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    Oh man, that sucks, this is almost exactly what I accidentally did as well, same shade as well. My Ratchet's waist/torso and hands have spent the last few days submerged in 97% rubbing alcohol in an attempt to lift some of the dye out but it's slow going. I'm hoping to lighten it to the point that I can try again, this time using significantly less dye, but it's slow going, there are a few small parts, mostly edges and corners, that are almost white again, but if that's the best I can get then I guess I'll have to use paint instead.
    Does anyone with more experience know if 99% alcohol would be any more effective in speeding up the lightening process? Or any other alternatives to lightening dyed plastic?
     
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    It is a very nice shade of purple at the very least
     
  7. Moonminer

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    i done this but my parts got warped! how could i avoid this?
     
  8. eipunx

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    You could have had you water too hot. You want to start everything when the pot is doing those little bubbles right before it starts boiling then drop your heat to the lowest setting. Just remember that you're just keeping the water hot but not too hot or you'll end up cooking the plastic which will lead to warping.
     
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    ah crap.. i held the water at 110 F pretty consistently throughout. thanks for the tip.
     
  10. MrSoundmeister

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    Though, the bright side about this with this shade of wine red, you could make a decent decepticon medic with that siege ratchet mold.
     
  11. POSSESSED_DIGIT

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    You could paint over it with the proper red color. It’ll look better as an undercoat than the cream color it used to be...
     
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    I wanna dye mine but probably will do the dyemore red just because I think it will match the paint better, opinions?
     
  13. HalfAshed

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    Try this stuff. It's for synthetic "plastic" fabrics. 20191222_210839.jpg
    I went from getting light/medium greys, to actual black. I've had the same results with other colors as well. But certain plastics require preparation like soaking in 70-90% isopropyl, or adding varying amounts of Acetone to the pot to soften up the top layer of plastic allowing it to accept the dye.
     
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    Also, you should remove the pot from the burner before dropping the parts, or if you do leave it on the burner, do not let the part's sit on bottom where it's the hottest.
     
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    Huh might have to try that next time I dye something else. All I used was the all purpose liquid Rit dye and a little bit of dish soap like the bottle said but I believe my main problem was that I used too much dye but I'll keep that in mind though.
     
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    They changed the formula a few years ago. And the only problem I've ever had with using too much dye is that it's a waste of dye, but shouldn't affect the end result. Wish you luck. Heres a pic of two I've done recently, And Soundblasters chest is dyed as well. Still finishing the details on them. 20191223_121743.jpg
     
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    Sorry to give this a bump, but I'm curious. What do you suggest for acetone usage??
     
  18. Hyoumaru

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    I'm sorry what? I thought it was well documented translucent plastic was undyeable?
     
  19. HalfAshed

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    Was told this by several customizes years ago. As it says, the acetone will soften the plastic allowing the dye to take. Adding too much will melt/eat the plastic, so I suggest to practice with junk parts until you learn how much to use, what plastics may require it, and you're comfortable with the process. Depending on the pot size, maybe start with a teaspoon or so.
     
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    I've done it several times. Some colors work better than others. A lot depends on the plastic. Here's one of my test pieces, a case from one of the cassettes. One piece looks even, the other piece came out a little blotchy or whatever you want to call it. 20200101_064323.jpg

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