Sorry if I missed something, but 4 or 5 of the 7 are up for preorder with prices.

 

From a questionable site with a history of wacky pricing.

 

Using the "Legend ROTF 2009" project for an MPM 3P format is a poor choice especially for the general aesthetics of the robot: 1) the first most evident detail, is the two wheels that are too small, with only a single lateral support structure, where both have a joint that moves the wheels for a short angle up and down, but not laterally; 2) a large "jointed arm" remains in evidence above the head (to which it is attached); 3) the excavator tracks are in evidence at the back of the robot; 4) the arms of the robot, are positioned more forward than the two sections of the hull of the excavator (they are therefore, two pairs of separate structures... the two sections of hull are fixed, while the articulated arms can be positioned)! All these details are not in line with the CGI of the film... the "accurate movie" feature of Scavenger SS is definitely superior! Different speech for the alternative mode, where the DS excavator is well made, especially in the general structure of the arm, with the "fake pistons" in relief on the outer sides, and a better structure of the bucket; instead the SS excavator "is weak" on these details... since the Hasbro designers have preferred to make the fake pistons, only on the inner side of the two sections of arms (visible only in robot mode)... when the arm is raised the two fake lower pistons are visible (okay)... but what I don't understand, is bacause to realize two fake pistons on the upper part of the arm, non-existent on the real RH400? Fortunately, this detail of the side pistons can be solved with additional components! Other minor details are: 1) the DS excavator scale positioned too far forward, but only for a question of designing the transformation); 2) the SS Excavator, has the tracks a little smaller (but justified by the fact that they "integrate" into a wheel); 3) the position of the arm on the high section of the hull of the SS excavator, is more in line with the real RH400... the arm of the DS excavator is positioned more in the center; and finally, seen from behind they are both ugly... since the robot's wheels are visible!

 

You really have way too much time on your hands, huh?

 

is it me or the arms are too skinny?
 

 

Not enough to paragraph.

I'm kidding.

 

Yeah, this guy isn't great. It looks a cad work in progress..., the blocks on the chest, to set the mass and shape, haven't been further worked on. Even the legends figure had longer arms. It's another case of the bot mode sacrifice for another mode. Altmode looks not great too, like the back end and front end a seperate, which obviously is a transform seam, but it does less to hide it

 

Raises hand, same. (Well I did before selling everything)

I’ll say it again though, these guys are too small for a masterpiece shelf. MPM is 1/29th. At that scale devy should be like 3 and a half feet tall. And no one tell me it can’t be done!!! (Gestures at FT fortress maximus)

 

G1 Fort max ≠ Bay Devastator

 

Exactly, G1 fort max is harder because he has to support his weight vertically and not fall over.

 

Transformers in general are hard.

 

Fair enough lol

I do like these guys, it’s just, as I’ve said before, they’re about 10% left of center when it comes to nailing the Constructicons in both modes. Some are closer than others, but none are spot on save maybe long haul.

 

If I were still on the fence about these guys (as of now I don't think I'll be getting more than one or two of them) I'd wait til the full set is revealed and at least two are released to check for quality/final prices, get the ones I loved as individual figures as they release, then when the full set is out if it's well reviewed then fill in the gaps.

 

TF direct says the combiner will be 50cm tall. For reference, look at the oversized AOE Leader Class Grimlock or oversized DOTM Voyager Megatron from a few years back. Those are 50cm tall figs. If their combiner will be that tall, I am sure it is close to MPM scale.

To get an idea of what im talking about here is a size comparison with Leader Class Optimus from AOE...

 

An MPM carbot (1:29) scaled Devy would have to be 108cm.
MPM-4/6/8 (1:35 i believe) would have to be 89cm.

 

Yeah, I'd much prefer the MPM04 scale for the larger robots. 19 cm is a huge difference.

 

While I do agree with the actual scale proportions you are listing, all I am saying is this (from Primes Head to Grimlocks head):



...is not too far off from this: (Primes head to Devys head) if indeed the figure will be around 50cm:

This would definitely look better than say studio series Devy next to say MPM prime. But yes, I do agree if we are to scale the vehicle modes of each constructicon properly, Devestator would be much taller by default.

 

Only problem with that is most of the 3rd party MPMs that have been released (or are scheduled for release) have been 1/29th. It also lines up pretty spot on with the robot mode scaling for the G1 masterpiece line. Still baffles me why Hasbro chose to shrink prime, and by extension the other large scale movie masterpieces.

Keep in mind, Devastator has very different proportions than that grimlock.

 

Im comparing head to head height to get a general idea of what to expect and what shelf I would use if true and if I decide to get it.

 

Isn't that Prime shorter than the MPM?

I can see it working nicely with the MPM-4 scale though, but not perfectly.