Fire Scorpion Bumble Bee Movie Optimus Prime

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by noisetrigger, Nov 10, 2019.

  1. BIOMEC

    BIOMEC Terrorcon, aka "Ratchetman"

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Posts:
    17,418
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    302
    Location:
    Arizona
    Likes:
    +23,829
    If the alt-mode is good looking, I might get this over TW's.
     
  2. noisetrigger

    noisetrigger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2008
    Posts:
    284
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Likes:
    +620
    4268A924-81A3-4040-9325-547507FE9608.jpeg B2786198-4513-419D-996C-E21CB61A494E.jpeg 4B0538DD-65B5-4994-948C-A23541F6C37B.jpeg CFFE11F0-4DE6-452E-AB1E-7CA66B579943.jpeg Holy!!!!

    The alt mode is looking amazing and goes to shows what an utter failure the TW alt mode is.

    The BB Prime war truly begins.

    Source: Hobby Shack

    According to source, this will be BMB OP sized.
     
    • Like Like x 8
  3. octobotimus

    octobotimus Bad company ruins good morals

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2017
    Posts:
    27,185
    News Credits:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    327
    Location:
    Washington
    Likes:
    +82,546
    Ebay:
    Instagram:
    Utter failure? You can freaking see the entirety of his legs on the back, most of his shoulders in the back, and a protruding head flap on the top of the cab. That’s far worse than just a foot on the back. And then there is the bot mode, good lord is that looking ugly with those tiny MP10 hands and massive chest.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  4. Dillpickle

    Dillpickle This looks like cool place to kick it!

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2019
    Posts:
    426
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    142
    Likes:
    +1,647
    Those proportions are atrocious.
     
    • Like Like x 6
  5. noisetrigger

    noisetrigger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2008
    Posts:
    284
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Likes:
    +620
    Your hard on for the TW has been duly noted. Now don’t go around crapping this thread for those of us who actually wants a different option. You already didn’t like it during the first reveal, you were never gone give this one a fair chance no matter what.

    This one does has a superior alt mode. It is not perfect but at least it is cleaner overall instead of TW attempt where they apparently ran out of budget when it comes to the legs for alt mode.

    Heck even the upcoming BMB OS SS38 has a cleaner alt mode than TW.

    Let’s face it, TW dropped the ball on the alt mode.
     
  6. octobotimus

    octobotimus Bad company ruins good morals

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2017
    Posts:
    27,185
    News Credits:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    327
    Location:
    Washington
    Likes:
    +82,546
    Ebay:
    Instagram:
    C9696EBB-898A-4A57-89F8-B7C02D9FC43D.jpeg F0D17811-C09D-448A-A879-9C6EC1DE3A36.jpeg
     
    • Like Like x 8
  7. mtl79

    mtl79 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2014
    Posts:
    2,092
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Likes:
    +567
    His waist is a bit chunky, but I prefer the alt-mode on this one... not sold overall I have to say, maybe there will be another 3p company that will offer the best of both worlds... in the meantime, I'll keep waiting...
     
  8. octobotimus

    octobotimus Bad company ruins good morals

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2017
    Posts:
    27,185
    News Credits:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    327
    Location:
    Washington
    Likes:
    +82,546
    Ebay:
    Instagram:
    After looking at the alt mode pics, I’m starting to notice a lot of panels and placement of parts seeming to indicate they are doing a very MP10 like transformation...
     
  9. Mercutio

    Mercutio Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2012
    Posts:
    5,291
    News Credits:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Likes:
    +16,352
    • Like Like x 11
  10. Optimango232

    Optimango232 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2014
    Posts:
    235
    Trophy Points:
    122
    Likes:
    +393
    This is all just my opinion, a few cents to put in.


    I respectfully disagree, as much as the Toyworlds alt mode is a let down, I don't believe this one is any "better" just different. Toyworlds has the feet tacked on the back and yeah, that's crappy but it hides its panels better and cleans up more seemlessly without obvious body panels/hinges. This one looks great still don't get me wrong but it doesn't attempt to hide the robot mode shin panels nor the head flap.

    Those are perfectly valid criticisms. And like Octo said, the shoulder panels don't blend as well.

    Yet this new one hides the feet great and the truck bed rear (the tailgate section) is admittedly nicer coz it's not just...Feet. It's not worth pretending either of these is perfect coz neither is.

    I personally think TW alt mode looks better and overall more accurate when you add bot mode accuracy and the movie truck as well, but again it's all just personal preference not some verifiable fact like we're all pretending to have haha.

    It's also still just a modded SS figure with plenty of innacurate elements and details in both modes. The truck isn't what was in the movie which to some, kinda matters.
     
    • Like Like x 4
  11. octobotimus

    octobotimus Bad company ruins good morals

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2017
    Posts:
    27,185
    News Credits:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    327
    Location:
    Washington
    Likes:
    +82,546
    Ebay:
    Instagram:
    TW is technically closer to it, but yeah, kinda surprised none of them have gone for the actual truck.... probably the rounded windows vs square in robot mode?
     
    • Like Like x 1
  12. Seth Sunthay

    Seth Sunthay ElusoryMonk

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2016
    Posts:
    14,762
    News Credits:
    45
    Trophy Points:
    277
    Likes:
    +37,809
    Twitter:
    YouTube (Legacy):
    I'd like to see an official one at this point.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  13. Optimango232

    Optimango232 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2014
    Posts:
    235
    Trophy Points:
    122
    Likes:
    +393
    Let's be real this is potentially one of the best ways to get the best of all worlds. The use of the actual ILM models, licenses and all. Considering SS38 was pretty dang clean, an increased budget could do wonders.

    And hey, it could even be inspiration for an even more perfect one way after all the Toyworlds and Fire Scorpions and Black Mamba one's release.
     
  14. Mercutio

    Mercutio Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2012
    Posts:
    5,291
    News Credits:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Likes:
    +16,352
    Aside from the MPM-7 Volkswagen Bee, they seem to be going in movie order, ie. doing the whole 2007 cast before moving on to the sequels. I wouldn't mind if they moved this guy to the front of the queue. At least the alt mode would finally be clean and accurate!
     
  15. Starganderfish

    Starganderfish Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2015
    Posts:
    7,756
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    247
    Location:
    Australia
    Likes:
    +11,923
    This is even bigger than Toyworlds: 32 cm vs 29cm.

    Neither are MP-10 size. They are about the sie of Weijiangs MPP-10.

    In terms of alt mode, they're both very wrong in so very many ways.
    Do a side by side with the shot from the movie and you can pick out so many things wrong with FS - the truck grill is inaccurate, the weird sun-visory thing on top of the cab, lack of roof lights, the cylindrical side tanks are too far back, the windows are too tall.
    But then compare the TW and there are also issues - the truck grill is equally inaccurate, the messy folds and gaps on the front bumper, the strange slant along the top of the cab, the exhaust pipes too skinny, the grey stripe too narrow, and of course the feet on the back, and again weirdly shaped windows.
    I don't think either one is really close enough to definitively declare an alt mode winner. I do think a super clean and glossy paint-job on ToyWorlds could really help it.
    In terms of bot mode, I do think ToyWorld is better. The waist, hips and crotch on the FS one just looks kind of awkward, and the proportions seem a little bit off in multiple places.
     
    Last edited: Nov 11, 2019
  16. rob_charb

    rob_charb Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2007
    Posts:
    6,020
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    337
    Likes:
    +4,741
    There are definitely some wonky proportions going on in those pictures, but I still dig the figure. At this rate, I'm going to need a shelf just for Bumblebee Optimus figures.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  17. LeoJ

    LeoJ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2019
    Posts:
    1,444
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Likes:
    +1,781
    Hmmm, in terms of cohesive alt mode this one takes the cake, but I really do like toy worlds overall alt mode design better. Had they just made the legs compress less and basically extended the bed of the truck so that it was thinner from the side and had the back wheels further away from the cab toy world would be golden. As it stands, this one seems to be an ss 38 inspired mold
     
  18. LeoJ

    LeoJ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2019
    Posts:
    1,444
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Likes:
    +1,781
    I would also be okay if a company focused on the robot mode and then cobbled together a genuinely alien seeming altmode, something like war within/stormbringer Optimus would be cool in my opinion
     
    • Like Like x 1
  19. InfinityKitten

    InfinityKitten Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2019
    Posts:
    739
    Trophy Points:
    172
    Likes:
    +1,573
    There are things that make me like this one more than Toyworld's. I like the proportions better, the headsculpt is better and the truck is more cohesive. But I think the arms are too short, the hands too small and the shoulders are situated weirdly in comparison to the chest, and that's throwing the proportions off. But if this guy really is even bigger than TW's it's a no from me eiher way.

    Also please stop with the "Cybertron mode" thing. Interchangeable wheels for robot mode are fine, but it just looks stupid in vehicle mode.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  20. svek

    svek Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2019
    Posts:
    3,953
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Location:
    Poland
    Likes:
    +13,890
    • Like Like x 1