It's Tumblr: The Cartoon, essentially. The creator even admitted as much at one point IIRC.

 

Really that's the gist of it. As soon as I saw the OP was referencing it, I disregarded the entirety of the text as I knew what the subtext was: cram as much Steven Universe into Transformers as possible. It's the same shit with the Bronies. Why can't you people accept that your two fictions are separate things, and that you wouldn't gain anything from the blending? Also notice how none of them are wanting the fusion in reverse, they just want their pet franchise shoved directly in the exhaust port of the TF fiction/franchise. If you really really really want that, just become a writer at IDW. James Roberts proved that with MTMTE. I'm actually shocked he didn't find an excuse to call the Lost Light the TARDIS.


Also, I'm a little indignant at the snap homophobic accusation Lovecraft levelled at those that didn't like Steven Universe. Here's a thought: LGBTQA+ inclusion/focus does NOT necessarily equate to good writing, NOR does it automatically excuse bad writing. You won't convince the fans of that, though, as all they care about is the fiction spamming the lesbian button as hard as it can.

I can give it... props, I believe the kids call it nowadays? Yeah, props... for making it an alien race and then focusing on what makes them different, rather than try to push drastically specific Earth agendas through someone else's fictional society.

 

Aw man, I thought this thread was about a bot that goes giggity  

 

Well i just wanted to sort of get that aspect of the discussion out of the way, what with all the sad pathetic 'ITS CANCER' responses.

I don't like it all that much either anymore, because of the sappy self-congratulating contrived way they've carried it on. Some people do, that's their choice.

But getting viscerally pissed off at the mention of Steven Universe? Or any POS cartoon that CN or Nick pumps out? That's downright stupid. Manchildish. People go hungry, or die without healthcare, ocean levels rising, WWIII a decade away, etc etc and someones largest outrage of the day was lesbian space aliens or a lame plot point in a TV show about lesbian space aliens? I'm just here to distract myself while I wait for the next big catastrophe to reset this POS rock we're all trapped on. Get some perspective. 'Radioactive tier cancer'. Read a book. Anyone who hates SU, or ANY TV SHOW, with real passion, is demonstrating a startling lack of perspective.

Anyway, back on topic now?

As I've made clear many times, there is only ONE THING from SU that I want in TF: Combiners without lazy writing whose components are fleshed out enough to inform the gesalts personality and behavior.

But people chose to fixate on SU (I wonder why) and now this thread is hardly about combiners.

 

Steven Universe Fusion? Hmmm...

(Megatron motioning for Soundwave to turn into a ukulele, then looks at the Constructicons)


All I wanna do is see you turn into
A giant robot,
A giant robot!
All I wanna be is a con who gets to see
A giant robot.

All I wanna do is help you turn into
A giant robot,
A giant robot!

All I wanna be is a con who gets to see
A giant robot.

Oh I know it'll be great and I just can't wait
To see the machine you are together.
If you all have the skill
Optimus you will kill
Because you are a giant robot.
You might even like being together
And if you don't it won't be forever.
But if it were me,
I'd really wanna be a giant robot,
A giant robot!
All I wanna do is see you turn into
A giant robot.

 

I love combiners, and really like the way they were portrayed in prime wars( though I would have liked to see more of them). What I would really like is a change up from the standard 5 bot configuration. The constructicons stand apart with 6, but I want to see something new done with future combiners, possibly even with an animal or monsterish form instead of humanoid (not rotf devastator).

 

Interestingly we've had both of these in the films. rotf Devastator is basically an ogre-ish like monster and the guardian knights transformers could combine into a three headed dragon named Dragonstorm.

 

I’m going with “new entity”. It seems like something that can function as a singular intellect comprised of all of the components’ skills and knowledge would work best...as opposed to multiple personalities having to coordinate their decisions, one member bending everyone else to their will or some rampaging freak...unless that rampaging freak is The Beast...in which case I approve.

 

I like how they were portrayed in Marvel Comics. Aside from Devastator they were reasonably well spoken, and weren't just big dumb clods stomping on everything. They just didn't get any time outside of fights to do anything other than being bigger than everyone.

 

Nah, it still kinda doesn't tell a good message when you literally have an episode called "The Zoo" which is quite literally a zoo full of humans supposedly living a utopian life, was admitted by the show's own creators to have been an episode excuse just to have specific character designs (meaning it served no purpose plot wise besides showing how much of a freak Steven's mom was because guess who made the Human Zoo), and showed a startling lack of research because you know...that shit actually happened and you can probably figure out why these kind of stopped existing by the 1930s.

No, I'm not joking, this episode legitimately exists.

No, dude, you made this as a vehicle to try and shove gem fusion into combiners, given how you lumped all the G1 combiners together as 'beasts' when quite really, had you actually done the research, the only ones that are truly beasts are Menasor, Monstructor, and Abominus. The majority of the other combiners, while not insanely smart (that's Computron), are not primitively minded like you seem to suggest.

Plus, you throw out RID as the 'leader leads' example which, while accurate enough, kind of ignores the fact Ruination is literally the only Scramble City type combiner in the show by virtue of him being Bruticus recolored. Landfill and Rail Racer are wholly unique combiners that can't simply mix and match due to the way they form (Landfill's gimmick being the three point combination system that changes his arm and back weapon, but Wedge is always the core).

On top of that trying to figure out how exactly the personalities differ with a normal scramble city combiner alone far exceeds Steven Universe since, what, at most you had three gems combine (not counting the fact that apparently Garnet herself is a semi-permament fusion of two) at once? Assuming you have two scramble city combiners - two leaders and eight limbs, using math that breaks down to (8 * 7 * 6 * 5) = 1680 possible combinations of limbs, times 2 for the leaders means ballparking 3360 total combination possibilities. I'm sure the number is not as high as that in the assumption that where in the combiner the limb is doesn't matter, but we're still easily talking over 200.

And that's ultimately what you need to understand - trying to force unique personalities depending on exact members between merely two combiners on the same side is a character creation suicide mission. Transformers rarely has major character counts go above twenty at most.

EDIT: I did more thinking about it, I figure that if you divide the 1680 number by the number of combinations within a specific group (4 * 3 * 2 = 24), you get 1680/24 = 70. Times the two leader bodies, that's 140 unique characters. So, I was wrong about the 200 number, slightly, but that's still 140 individual unique personalities/characters and my original point stands that it's an impossible number to do for any form of Transformers media.

 

You're literally the only one making responses that sensational. Everyone else has been reasonable, if it has taken a turn you don't like then it's because you chose to make a comparison that really doesn't exist to find a way to cram Steven Universe into this conversation from the get go.

Then why tie into it? If it's no good anymore, and you yourself as a former fan admit it's no good, then why offer ANY link to it? "If you mix 5 gallons of ice cream with 5 gallons of manure, you get 10 gallons of manure." Making the connection to that fiction invites scrutiny of every aspect. It's how discourse works.

Viscerally? lol Someone's been working on their vocab words. Here's another one for you: projection. If you can't figure out why it's pertinent, then I have no hope for you.

You forgot reproductive rights. If you're going to spam the politics button uselessly in a thread that really doesn't even need it, at least go all out.

Why is it so important for you to focus on the lesbian space aliens part? You're the only one focusing on it. Go look up that vocab word again, it applies here.

Then do so without inviting debate or discourse as it is painfully clear you cannot handle either.

Trust me, your responses have given me PLENTY of perspective, just not in the way you want.

See? Projection.

And condescending assumption. Manchildish? Isn't that what you said earlier? Confirmation of projection right here.

OR showing possession of personal taste, and a willingness to speak out about what they don't like.

This IS on topic as you included it in the damn opening post for consideration.

Lazy writing? Something tells me you haven't really read/watched all that much.

Say I start a thread that postulates some premise that existed in KissPlayers, say the Legion as a mass army for the Decepticons, it will immediately and rightly so invite discourse on the fairly graphic La Blue Girl appendages on the Legion, while simultaneously opening the criticisms of KissPlayers… imagery. No one is fixating on Steven Universe, as you are so diligently trying to state, we simply point that it really doesn't belong in the comparison. Sure, there's some extra commentary on how SU fans try to cram SU discussion in everything much like the Bronies did back in the day, but at the end of it all the discussion is how bad the fusion idea is, and you going full bore white knight on SU right down to spamming what is essentially homophobia accusations.

 

My serious answer, other than a song, is the third one, that the combined form is its own separate entity. That a combiner is pieces of all the bots that form it... and if they have shared interests, aspects, and the such then those interests will be stronger in the combiner. For example, the Predcons all love the thrill of the hunt so Predaking has that VERY strong in his makeup

 

Steven universe, one picture