Even if Hasbro did a new run of these exact molds, to hit their own price points they would all come without guns and swords.
I just don't want a Snaptrap/Turtler without his gun, sword, shoulder cannons, and half-shell armor plate.

 

then have more money, plan ahead for it,
If you know about it in advance then it’s your fault if you don’t have the cash to not get hit, or change to a new bank/credit union

 

I don't want to ruffle anyone's feathers here but I think in general the price perceptions of many US consumers really doesn't help the present day Transformers retail landscape. I've seen so many people complain about the SIEGE cassettes being too expensive for what they are. That seriously makes me go 'WHAT THE F?'. It's 2019, we are all adults and people don't want to pay freakin' $5 for a transforming little cassette with generous amounts of sculpted detail and paint apps? I mean, I am looking at my Laserbeak and Ravage and I am still impressed by what they could get out of $5 (edit: per cassettte).

It blows my mind really.

 

just to correct/clarify a point, the cassettes would be $5 each because they are in $10 2 packs and i know someone will try to be a smart ass about you saying theyre $5  

 

ohmyprimus

Tfsource

 

Way I see it, complaints about the prices have been around since boards like this were first here to complain about them. There's no end to it. What you really need to worry about is when the toys actually stop selling, but given how some of the loudest of complainers still seem to manage to buy everything they want anyway, I don't think that there is anything to worry about.

 

Yeah, that's what I meant (and wrote I thought).  

 

yea, i was sure that was what you meant, i just know how some people are on here  

 

But see, that's the thing. It's not a question of 'are they gonna stop selling?'. Rather, it's 'what corners are they gonna cut next?'. Because prices need to up again at some point. Hopefully next year doesn't show any cost cutting measures (i.e. dips in quality).

And I am not sure all these people keep on buying (unless they have adapted their perspective). But I think an argument can also be made that lack of sales from the el cheapo group are compensated by a new group that recognized the jump in quality.

Wait, I reread it: it wasn't that clear after all.  

 

They don't need to do shit. Hell, nothing's forcing them to do what they're doing now via Pulse.

Because they aren't working with direct access to Takara like Pulse is. It's likely the delay in getting the listings on Pulse was working out how the process would work between Pulse/Takara to make sure they could fulfill as many POs as were made.

Think of it like Unicron. Pulse was the direct conduit, and everybody else (including Takara) had their own pathways to getting orders through that had to be worked out before they could be offered to the public (which is why the international Unicron options didn't go up the same day as the Pulse listing).

I mean, Transformers hasn't survived for 35 years by relying on an aging group of collectors. So they're always replacing those who lose interest.

 

See that’s the thing, these people aren’t Hasbro’s customers anymore. The amount of people on this board you see complain and say “I haven’t bought a Transformers toy in X years, but if they slather it in paint, have it be Y tall & no more than a Deluxe price then MAYBE there’s a tiny chance I may buy this” But the thing is, not all Customers are equal.

Hasbro will just look at that & go, “well 95% are happy with what we’re doing, the other 5% are asking us to give 50% more for a possible return? Not worth it’

And don’t get me wrong, there are some legitimate concerns, but as I’ve mentioned before prices for Siege in my country have come down from Combiner Wars/Titans Return to Siege, the rest of the world has had the same prices the US now has for years. Now it’s all just catching up.

In the end, prices will eventually go up or quality will go down. We just have to make the most of the here and now.

And as for the Seacons themselves? There’s nothing saying Hasbro hasn’t tried to ship these around previously, but why would Hasbro want to produce these when it’s simply easier/more economical to just import them & save the hassle? They’re six loudly coloured fish that at a distance look pretty similar, from a gimmick they’ve for the most part moved on from. They just ran the numbers & realised there was no/minimal profit, which is fair enough. At least we can still get the mm somewhere.

 

*DING DING*

The Hasbro Seacons would have either been a nightmare of compromises to fit their price points, or simply wouldn't exist. And it bares repeating that every Generations Selects they've released would have fit into the traditional retail model (Galactic Man, Lancer, G2 Megatron, ___streak, etc)

So instead of making compromises to fit the price point, Hasbro just served as a direct conduit for us to get the Takara versions.

 

The Hasbro selects you mention all fall within their price scheme of "new paint job, maybe a few new parts" which would fit into a retail wave, yet the references are just out there enough (and the waves already determined) that they went the exclusives route. (Yes I'm looking at you, powerdashers)

 

So, I grabbed the last 2 seacons on Pulse yesterday and now want to cancel my TFSource preorder...but don't see anywhere to do that. They already charged my paypal when I place the preorder. Anyone else getting the same thing?

 

Hasbro sees sales. If stuff sells, they'll trend the line towards that while trending away from stuff that doesn't. I would assume part of why Siege has adopted the idea that not all robot modes have to be the same size is because Studio Series has been selling like hotcakes with that same model.

It's also the balance between what we saw in CW (every wave is an entirely new set of characters) and TR/PotP (front load the early waves with new stuff and then put one new figure in a case full of repacks at the end).

It lets them keep popular characters in the mix (Hound, Ironhide, Prowl, Barricade, etc) at retail, while getting their reuses out of the mold for those who want deeper character rosters.

 

i opted to not pay till shipping day and put them in a stack so i just removed em
And i was good

 

That's not the point I was making. And even if it was, it'd still be incorrect since Siege is relying HEAVILY on an aging group of collectors.  

I do hope Hasbro will do more with this size flexibility in the Commander class. There are lots of characters that could be worked into this class, provided they sacrifice an inch or 2 and put that into extra gimmicks and/or engineering.

 

If Hasbro Pulse didn't offer these Takara Tomy Mall Exclusives, people won't be complaining about prices. LOL

 

Have you...even considered the fact that perhaps Hasbro doesn't even WANT to do these? Know why we got Slingshot, Wildrider, Groove, and Blast Off as exclusives in Prime Wars? Because Hasbro wanted them. They wanted to use them and they asked Takara to do it. They were Takara initiatives that were ultimately used because Hasbro wanted the complete G1 teams.

If Hasbro really wanted to do these, then they could actually ask, but the fact that they're just importing these on Pulse instead of just...doing them speaks to a lot of reasons why they probably won't.

I don't know how false statements like the aim of brand unification spread. It was ONLY ever about retail product being unified. Takara still has their Selects line, which is a continuation of their exclusive Legends EX line, and Hasbro's Generation Selects, our indigenous exclusives.

 

I'm pretty sure they are, though, at least with the usual suspects on this board who like to bring up the prices.

But in this case, the Seacons are from Takara who have always charged a premium, so their prices are not going to have any correlation with what Hasbro charges at retail or what corners Hasbro will continue to cut to maintain that price (which seems like they've decided for the WFC trilogy that it will be paint and accessories).