New 2020 Generations listings!

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Jtprime17, Sep 25, 2019.

  1. autoclave

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    I'd buy 5 of those if they'll do a new mold for doubledealer.
     
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    My boy Bulkhead deserves better than that.
     
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  3. Rodimus Prime

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    TLJ and Solo seriously damaged SW sales. To the point where a lot of walmarts only have a small section for the next movie, or nothing at all . Marvel and PR are doing well , though.
     
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    Double Dealer or Clench or Pyro would be nice to see again but perhaps they are all not really Commander Class material. Unless they made a Pyro with a REALLY Big fire tender trailer on him or gave Clench a Box Trailer instead of making him a non-articulated Truck (more like DTM Megatron).

    I think my idea of Japanese G1 farming seems the best place to go for Commander Class if they want to do more of them though. Otherwise they may end up making smaller robots with large accessories or playsets with them in that class price point instead.
     
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    my walmart apparently stopped stocking lightning collection
     
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    In my country, SW sales tanked way back beginning from TFA...
     
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    The KMart that's been in my town for as long as I can remember is closing in December.

    There are still TFA (Force Awakens) figures on its shelves.
     
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    Yeah, I would be exactly the same with those tweaks to Earthrise Optimus - it'd basically make for the perfect Prime. I'm convinced the fist issue is just so they can try and force-feed us another "Malibu Stacy WITH NEW HAT!" scenario in about a year's time with blue hands.

    Ah, I had no idea about that much of Gundam's history. It's funny how they're able to keep pumping out Wing and Seed merch because of their place in saving the franchise, but Beast Wars only gets the odd breadcrumb every 4/5 years for achieving the same thing with Transformers. Hopefully all this speculation about a coming Beast Era revival is at least partly on the money!

    I don't even mind when they do go in circles with Optimus, as long as it's more than just G1 or "G1 styled" every time. I really enjoyed getting Seige's Cybertron Optimus update (even with its faults) for a change of pace, and I'll happily buy updates like Siege Jetfire or Omega, that bring something new enough to the table, even though they're yet more old characters based on old designs. I'm 100% in for the likes of Impactor too, or any characters that haven't received legit figures in the past, whether they're G1 or not.

    I agree about the Titans too, even though we've had some misses here and there, they've been huge fun to get every year or so! Only trouble is, who will they do to keep the size class going, once they've finished all of the big G1 guys in the next few years?
     
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    K-Mart’s still in business? No wonder they still have Force Awakens stuff... that was around the time I last saw one
     
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    Omg...:lol 
    When they said "still TFA on the shelves" I thought TF: Animated... "um, maybe THAT'S why they're closing?"

    But yeah, the Kmart closest to me also closed down seems like years ago and has sat empty ever since. In that time, the little chinese food place outside of it has been like... 3 different chinese restaurants, a fish place, a bbq joint, and a 4th chinese food place before also sitting empty. The "Kmart Kurse" seeps into surrounding businesses.
     
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    They transformed ( :D  ) my local K-Mart into a bowling alley years ago... seriously had no idea they were still competing. They must only still be around in places that don’t have a Walmart nearby? It’s probably why they still have TFA product... not sure Hasbro would bother selling to them anymore if they’re no longer a big box chain. K-Mart will probably go the way of Blockbuster where the store manager will need to order their product off Amazon to sell in their store :lol 
     
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    Its name is Eddie Lampert. Its scheme is to run the company into debt, buy the land under the stores to "help" the company, and continue this process until all of the land is owned by its hedge fund. Home Depot's board/shareholders caught on to what it was doing and kicked it to the curb where KMart found it. Sadly, Sears caught this virus when its financial trickery allowed KMart to buy them despite being by far the weaker of the two organizations.
     
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    .... wow...
    Maybe we should petition to have the bird-like Terrorcon renamed "Finance" or "Just Business"...
     
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    I'm still holding out hope that the armored car leader catz was talking about turns out to be Thunderclash. It's a long-shot and there are points against it, but I'm still hoping. I know I am not the only fan waiting for the chance to buy a Generations Thunderclash. And a new Machine Wars Prime.
     
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    Yeah, it's likely not TC... I wish though. The clues were... (paraphrasing) armored car.. hasn't had an update.. correction, an update but not a very good one... and no 3P has done him (to catz knowledge).

    While the armored car is iffy, Doubledealer seems the most likely candidate. Thunderclash had a Botcon update.. and has a 3P offering..

    Also, if Hasbro plans to have a mercenaries faction, DD would work well in that group..
     
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    I agree, though Thunderclash has some merit. I agree Doubledealer fits into the Mercenary gimmick, but Thunderclash fits into the base-mode gimmick quite easily.
    This would've worked in TR too, so it's hardly a sure thing, but Thunderclash could conceivably be an Optimus retool with a new trailer. Think how they made Siege Ultra Magnus into Galaxy Convoy.
     
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    Eh, Thunderclash has an entirely different transformation and body type than Optimus. I'm not sure I want another Siege Crosshairs showing up in the line, especially at Leader price point. =/
     
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    I'd also call that Botcon version of Thunderclash disappointing at best, but yeah, TC is a long-shot. But, I still hope having an Optimus Prime repaint built-in increases the chances of seeing TC in a line with Micromasters.
     
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    There's precedent.
    Thunderclash was repainted as Machine Wars Optimus.

    (And honestly, if they have the same altmode and robot modes with enough of the vehicle parts in the same place--TC has the same leg-wheels and boxy shoulders, for instance--then I see no harm in changing up the transformation. The truck windows facing forwards instead of down, that's not that big of a deal, especially when Prime lacks the curved roof. Having an additional roof piece added that hinges down to cover the chest, that's feasible)
     
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    @RKillian : i too can still find TFA at retailers over here! Its INSANE! Prior to the sequel trilogy, merch based on PT and OT would have cleared years ago! X)


    I think we just got to be patient with BW. I have been waiting for a new (or reissue with better paint apps) CHUG BW T-Rex (season 1) Megatron but alas, it has not yet appeared.

    My concern is that in terms of customer demographics : most of the kids that grew up with BW, grew out of collecting...unlike the G1 kids.

    As a result, demand for G1 merch is always going to be higher.

    That’s the case with other, older franchises too...somehow its almost always the first “series” that props up the franchise. Example, Star Wars and Gundam.

    Gundam has its ups and downs too. And it really serves as a good example as how a franchise can “peak” and “drop”...it was pretty dire in the 90s! LOL!

    With regards to TFs, I hope one day we get something akin to the Studio Series for G1 and BW. Right now, all the “best” (for me) G1 updates are all over the place. Example, best CHUG versions for the Datsun brothers were in the first few CHUG series, best Tryticon was in Titans Returns (?), best Jetfire in Siege and so on.

    With regards to the future titan class figures...its hard to say. They can release Japanese combiners or re-do tge G1 combiners, release Skylynx?
     
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