Toyworld TW-F09 Tactics Waistcoat (Freedom Leader)

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by Desertwindhounds, Jan 11, 2019.

  1. Hadlen_Weltall

    Hadlen_Weltall The original Mad Genius Gunpla and Cow Master

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    Change "Backwards Time Machine" to "ToyWorld Freedom Leader" and get everyone singing.

    They could take NECA's approach, take the complaints about what's not been made and threaten to cancel the ENTIRE line..that shut up everybody whining about about no Ghidorah '2019.
     
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  2. ManelFigures

    ManelFigures You can't hear the bass, but you can feel it.

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    I want a nice "touchable" and durable figure, not an ultra expensive figure like a Hot Toys.

    There's another one, now it will be released the Weijiang version, but there's another improved version from unknown brand.
     
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    Sonofadefro Don't waste food. I'll keel you

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    The fact that we are able to talk openly about the KO market, should provide enough proof that Hasbro isnt doing no crackdown and people should shut up about whether or not 3Ps are being targeted due to legal reasons. 3Ps arent illegal to begin with
     
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  4. Hadlen_Weltall

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    Behold the loophole that is Third Party.
    We'll know when Takara and Hasbro take a page from Bandai's book and award gold repaints to police for shutting down KO makers.
     
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    IMHO that thing looks bad. I feel like all the bad parts in the original mold like the short legs and fat torso are accentuated when it's made bigger.

    Wait, what? Since when do intellectual property holders have the ability to silence internet chatter?
     
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    Third Party transforming toy manufacturers are a complete misnomer. A "third party" manufacturer would hypothetically be some manufacturer Hasbro would contract to make toys for them. In that sense, Takara was a third party manufacturer for Hasbro back in the old days. I guess maybe still, depending on how you look at it, and whether "HasTak" is truly a thing.

    As for Fanstoys, X-Transbots, DX9, etc, these are NOT "third party" manufacturers. They are "unlicensed" manufacturers. "Third party" would imply they are affiliated, or even authorized, which they are neither. Whether or not it's illegal is for lawsuits to decide.

    I don't know who started calling them "third party", but they were dead wrong. Though I understand why; it doesn't sound as blackmarket-like as calling them unlicensed. Same reason some have taken to calling knockoff manufacturers fourth party. Whether they are a good thing or bad thing is a different debate entirely. But people should stop calling them something they are not.
     
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    3rd Party is either licensed or Unlicensed. The "4th Party" term was created by some sellers, to circumvent prying eyes looking into KOs.
     
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    OmegaTaco Supreme Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb

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    3P uses the loose definition of 3rd Party

    "A separate individual or organization other than the two principals involved. A third party is typically a company that provides an auxiliary product not supplied by the primary manufacturer to the end user"
     
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  9. franpincho

    franpincho NOT a FT Only collector

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    "Unofficial 3p" is the right term.

    But no one cares. I don't.
     
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  10. Snaku

    Snaku Primes Don't Party

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    Clearly you do or you wouldn't have said anything.
     
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    Jhund Screws>Pins

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    ... they aren't exactly legal , why do you think the name for this is freedom leader and not Optimus.
     
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    Chopper Face Emissary of The Vok

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    Any time I see this comment it winds me up. I just find it childish and usually false. I could also acknowledge and state that ‘unofficial 3P’ sounds like it’s clearly a very accurate description for those companies but also not care about continuing to just call them 3P as that’s more well established. It’s such a trivial nitpick that it really shouldn’t matter and isn’t likely to change at this point.
     
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    Yeah I agree.

    On a side note, is it just me or I prefer the unlicensed ones than the licensed ones? Fanstoys and Toyworld Constructor are top tier products.
     
  14. Hadlen_Weltall

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    It depends on the product. I still stand by the original company but I like the expanded options outside of their control.
    Hasbro and Takara have some hit or miss figures but you can't deny the brand's longevity and the number of times you end up getting their figures when it's a character you like, regardless of the execution of the design to plastic. With deliberate shortcomings to fit in the age range and the fact these are still TOYS aimed at children, and not puzzle boxes that turn into vehicles and back again for adults.
    The "Aftermarket " versions take the the age limitations out and more complexity in order to create a more fulfilling product based on a seemingly Limitless design schedule that isn't held to a release plan to coincide with whatever multimedia project it's related to.
     
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    octobotimus Bad company ruins good morals

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    This actually is a pretty good price. Most 3rd party TF’s the size of MP 10 are 150, and yet this guy is even bigger, at a solid foot tall. That’s not really ultra expensive when you compare it to pretty much any other company.
     
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    ToyWorld's product is. In general terms, it's just a product done by a 3rd Party manufacturer. 3A produces Licensed Products, and they are a 3rd Party manufacturer.
     
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    Because the name "Optimus Prime" is a licensed trademark, not the design of the figure.
     
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    It’s not just the name . Though it’s rather open to how they can interpret it , 49A99085-9C64-4FBD-85A3-D8D6BF89918B.png
     
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    Wait, the comment on it being unofficial winds you up or me saying that he cares winds you up?

    I think a more precise term would be "unlicensed third party." It's not that "unofficial" is incorrect but "unlicensed" has a more specific meaning because it conveys that there is a licensing process that a third party is meant to go through but these haven't. But it's such a minor difference that it doesn't really matter. In other words, I don't care. Or rather I do care but only a little.
     
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    Yes, thanks but I will wait pictures of the final product (and thoughts or reviews), too expensive for me.