*grabs random image from G1*



Wait, Hot Rod/Rodimus was the same height as Springer and Kup?

Jeez, just make a Voyager Kup and then retool/repaint it into the core for a Leader Rodimus.

 

The Sunbow scale chart suggests that was a funny camera angle. RP is just a hair shorter than UM, in principle

 

Actually, it's more possible to make new voyager molds for both of them. More likely Rodimus might get an new Siege-leader sized mold, cuz' you know.

 

Yes.

 

I'd like another Hot Rod/Rodimus. Don't care which, but I don't think the PotP version fits with Siege. Designs are just too different. Maybe I'm looking too closely but inner Hot Rod stands out in a sea of Siege figures, I'd rather he fit in with them.

 

I think the Rodimus Prime design is one of the coolest designs in TF history. I also think it has been sorely underrepresented considering the volume of Optimii.

Beyond more versions of the base Rodimus Prime, I'd also like to see Fire Rodimus realized and a Rodimus that combines like Godbomber with Optimus. There is still lots of untapped potential here.

 

Hot Rod shouldn't be any taller than Ironhide. Yeah, PotP Hot Rod is too tall.

If you don't care what a Hasbro rep says, then you'll miss out on valuable information on the franchise. And it won't be the fault of anyone else here.

No, it hasn't been "debunked" at all. The scale of Siege has been very consistent with Sunbow, which Warden claims WFC takes place in.

Flywheels and Battletrap are compatible, yes. Omega Supreme(and possibly Astrotrain from the reports I've been reading) have compatibility with TR bases. TR Overlord is debatable, as he was produced before the unified scale, and we don't know what size Hasbro's Overlord supposed to be in relation to the 1:35 scale Siege figures.

But with all that in mind... so what?

No, I don't see. We know that PotP "ended early" so that the Generations reboot could happen. We know that, aside from being of the G1 aesthetic, Siege looks and "acts" more similar to Studio Series than the Prime Wars Trilogy, in spite of the gimmick compatibility. And we know that Siege has indeed proven that Warden's scale claims were on the mark.

See the image below.

 

They wont believe you. I've been trying to tell people that per John Wardens words before the line came out, Siege would follow a scale based upon the cartoon except in obvious circumstances such as a retool or remold between 2 characters etc, but people will for whatever reason NOT accept that there is now a consistent scale

 

Speaking of rodimus, I always liked the nutso energon rocket powered racing truck one. Would love to see him get remade as a voyager without the gimmick.

 

I think the scale thing is a non-issue. Since Combiner wars I have been happy with the scale of the figures and rivals vs rivals comparisons. I LOVE that Siege Omega is full Titan and scales correctly with Combiner Wars Devastator (my opinion). As for the other combiners I always thought of them as the less powerful/large compared to Devastator and Predaking. The only one I wished was a Titan scale combiner is Volcanicus.....he REALLY should have been equal to Predaking.

 

It’s not necessarily that people that argue that point don’t believe that the new figures are following a scale, it’s when people try and claim that pre-wfc figures don’t work because of the scale. This is what has been debunked, especially considering we know of at least 2 wfc figures whose scale was designed around prime wars figures, skytread (to go with battletrap) and omega supreme (to scale appropriately with devastator).

Not every character needs a new figure to fit into the wfc scale because a good number of recent figures already fit into the relative scale of wfc

 

That's not your opinion alone, it's a fact, Omega was made deliberately to scale with Devastator, anyone who can not accept that or who feels they dont scale is refusing to accept the facts which is fine in terms of their own personal opinion but not in terms of what actually IS, if you know what I mean.

I feel that a new Hot Rod is inevitable, a new Rodimus Prime? I would NOT expect him in a line based off a WFC narrative, just as how Sentinel must die to give rise to Optimus, so must Optimus die to give rise to Rodimus, now you could say that its fiction and they can make up whatever they want to rationalize and that's true, however, John Warden said they were trying to stay authentic to the characters and the narrative, if so, NOW would be the wrong time for Rodimus Prime etc

 

I do think Sideswipe will be the base mold for a new Hot Rod due to the fact that these holes appear to be designed for a nice large yellow spoiler.

 

Hot Rod is 5 meters tall, Sideswipe is 4. Wouldn't work.

 

i think that's a little too anal for hasbro to bother differentiating from.

 

While I can't see it being a straight up retool I do see the potential WFC Hot Rod mold sharing some transformation schemes while adding in new ones.

 

I think the windshield and the legs will be the same. The doors, head, pelvis and car hood will be new tooling. The underhood lockbar will be retooled to attach to an engine for the hood. The spoiler will have a peg on the underside that will allow you to peg it on to his back in robot mode. He'll be colored magenta to distinguish him from Sideswipe, not to mention the flames and added pipes.

It's seems so obvious...

 

I think Warden and Hasbro will be exercising as much wiggle room as they want on the narrative aspect of the story they're telling. While it's not functionally a retcon* to say, e.g., "Barricade and Hot Spot were in G1 and were on Cybertron during the pre-Earth period," I think the Galaxy armor counts as a pretty big change to the character and narrative of OP pre-Earth (so do the Target- and Headmasters appearing). They're going to have to (a) do a time jump in part 3** (to get to, e.g. PMOP), (b) re-purpose more UT incarnations of OP/Megs as power-ups, or (c) introduce a series of leaders (headliners) that are not OP/Megs in parts 2 and 3. If it's (a) RP is in play. If it's (c) I'm not sure Hot Rod getting powered up to RP is particularly different from Galaxy Optimus or Apeface being a Headmaster before the Ark takes off. That's not to say if it's (c) that the headliner has to be Rodimus Prime (Star Saber and Deathsaurus are just sitting there waiting to be made, as are Galvatron, Thunderwing as a big bad, Bumblebee, Grimlock, and a few other well-known TFs).

I have no idea how to handicap the odds of a, b or c, but I think it's not entirely unlikely that RP comes out in the line. I wouldn't bet money on it or anything, but Rodimus appears a lot more in the Sunbow cartoon than Hot Rod does, and we've already gotten Magnus and Springer, and we'll surely see Arcee soon. He'd fit in


*I suppose it's retroactive, but it's not recontextualizing anything

**The fan poll info suggests part 2 is still pre-earth, but this could be preliminary and part 2 could end up later on in the timeline

 

They bothered making Ironhide and Impactor Hot Rod's size, so I very much disagree with your assessment.

 

Not really. Have him take up the mantle after the suicide mission with the Ark ends in disaster.