Haslab Unicron

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  1. tobecat

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    $616.00 in Ohio with all the taxes applied
     
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    No. Backers come and go in every crowd fund. Some have instant buyer’s remorse. Some have unexpected expenses come up. Other are just trolls.
     
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    Because information is being updated as orders come in from various sources. Did it yesterday, probably will up until the very end.
     
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    Will never reach Earth
     
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    Not really. It's only varies by single digits from time to time. People are free to change their mind up until the 31st.

    If it was going up and down in the hundreds at a time, then something hinky is definitely going on. One or two is just whatever. What's more important is that the overall trend is up, and we've gained ~120 since this morning, from when I checked earlier in the day.
     
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    No, the burden of evidence is on the one making the accusation.

    Hasbro posted the following over the weekend: “We’re excited to share that 1,500 UNICRON supporters around the globe that have backed the project through Hasbro affiliated retailers will bring us much closer to the 8,000 backer goal. ”

    On Monday, those were added to counter. It is not rocket science to assume that these numbers reflected the aforementioned Hasbro affiliated orders. You (feigning ignorance and incredulity) at the time said “Sure, 1500 people decided to make an order at the same time.” Which is an implication of a conspiracy at work, one for which you have no evidence.

    Today you gave us “t's a brand new day!! That means we'll have another 1500 "orders" later today.

    Thanks for the our "partners" (click farm) in China for their beautifully orchestrated purchase exercise!!!”

    Why were they not added organically? Who knows. Maybe they waited on certain affiliates closing preorders. Maybe the website just doesn’t have the functionality or resources to give real time updates from 6 different sources. Maybe some other reason. But you jumped to the most tin foil reason of all, Hasbro as cooker of books, and here you are pretending to be a just a provider of hard facts and reason. The gig’s up
     
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    if it’s your assertion that the numbers are fraudulent you equally have to prove it. Now, nobody expects you to have actual proof so for the sake of discussion, because that’s all we are having, your reasoning simply has to be more sound than your opponents reasoning.

    Unfortunately for you your reasoning is easily defeated. Because Hasbro Pulse/HasLab isn’t servicing those individual end consumers directly, they aren’t receiving individual orders for those end consumers. They are servicing the affiliates and simply need the affiliates total orders in bulk. When they receive the bulk numbers they update it in bulk. Your demand for incremental individual orders simply doesn’t reflect the reality of the program and therefore an absence of them doesn’t indicate any chicanery.
     
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    Yup! I'll also add the link to the TTMall crowdfunding page: 【Hasbro社クラウドファンディング商品】トランスフォーマー WAR FOR CYBERTRON ユニクロン

    "Commercialized with 8,000 worldwide! Acceptance starts at Takara Tomy Mall in Japan!"
     
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    I don’t want to be that guy, but 1200 per retailer seems insanely optimistic. I’d be surprised if each one secured 100.
     
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  10. Sammael

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    It's also possible that Pulse front end is switching between multiple db connections and databases are replicated asynchronously. It's a bit rare in today's world, but Hasbro was never all that good with tech.
     
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  11. Sweep

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    I was thinking glitch? It's too frequent in too short a time for people to be wishy washy. Trolling is possible though.
     
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    Hah. The real question is, if they make up 1500, 2500 or even 8000, who among the crowdfunders is going to care if it means the figure they pledged to buy gets made?

    Sheesh, you'd think we were voting for which figure is getting made here and Unicron just took a massive leap over... ... ... I don't know, Scorponok?
     
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    Just out of curiosity, how does one cancel a preorder? Call?
     
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    Ok, that made me chuckle. Well done, my friend :) 
     
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    I've been tracking, the 1500 was added all at once.
     
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  16. Hicks_Royel

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    Yep, exactly. And that guy questioning the dang thing has a Japanese girlfriend. Of all the people to question the original source, he should be the least likely as he has a source who can read the non Google translate version.
     
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    I come back and its 7 away from 5000........ instead of a time out.. you guys get a cookie! Yay! good work everyone :D 

    Outstanding.. sir you are a gentleman and a scholar!

    each joint in a figure costs money....... and a new mold to be created for that piece... its going to cost extra whether its hasbro or 3rd party. some of you people seem to think hasbro is just making bank 300$ profit on each and I 100000000% guarantee its now where near that much of a profit.

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    1503 actually.
     
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    Thank you @daniel7777! I swear to god the number of people here who make crap up is mind blowing. How freaking hard is it to read? Or do a modicum of research?

    That being said here is your daily updated graph. As of this very second we are 7 away from 5k so I have gone ahead and rounded it up to the five thousand mark. Chances are by the time you see this post it will be there already. Unicron sales.jpg
    They are four days and some change away from the end and are almost 1300 or so off the trending line from the middle of the month. The only caveat is that the "trending" forecast foresaw the campaign being funded sometime during the 45 day, so there is still a little time to make it up. With these numbers however, I don't see how Hasbro Pulse is going to pull it off by themselves. They might do well to get the non-affiliated secondary sellers to at least submit half their orders as soon as possible so that they can be officially tallied and improve the outward appearance of the campaign.
    We've seen an impressive upswing today, but if you follow the graph's trajectory, even 4 more days of this will only get Unicron to somewhere around 6k.
     
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    It's actually _not_ easy to links data sources together, and anyone who works in tech should know that. It's theoretically possible, but somebody would have to write a program and spend hours upon hours debugging, that's a total waste of resources. Live sales are unnecessary when you can just have a person update within the existing system.

    This theoretical program would also involve affiliates giving Hasbro direct access to their sales data, which just isn't realistic.
     
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    I don’t follow. Your graph shows exponential growth for the final few days of both campaigns and yet you make a prediction of linear growth.
     
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