MMC OX Assaultus

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by Devastator21, Sep 30, 2017.

  1. firedemon3

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    While there was some partsforming in some of the G1 toy combiners, there were never shellformers. If you look at FT Roadking he transforms into a box that you put in a shell of the combiners body, same with Zeta Maverick, Zeta Bruticus. The last time I checked, the leader bot actually formed the body and not simply a box. In my opinion, it's pretty lazy engineering to not even incorporate the main bot into the body of the combiner, if it was just pants that's one thing although I still wouldn't personally buy them for my collection.
     
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    I know right? If you’re gonna call someone CHUG levels of greebles UT are a far stronger contender!
    Hah! That’s great! I love it! Fusion styles guys! MMC is the king of it!
     
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    Nice Lancer WRX? and handwriting :) 
    I don't think Impetus is very greebly either. Quite a few seams and multi-part panels making up various limbs and such, but not greebles.
     
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    Haha, thanks! Actually it's a STI. For a midlife crisis remedy, a Subie 6-speed manual tranny does the trick.
     
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    lol nice! I just updated my post to "WRX" when I realized the placement of the antenna hub was further back than I remembered on Lancers. STi is really nice! Had one of these a while back.
     
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    It's called trade off. People who don't engineer stuff just don't understand the term. In this case, the trade off is between size and all in one. There's also the matter of stability.

    A combiner's component is essentially a triple changer, and time and time again it's been shown that it's hard to make all three modes work seamlessly in a single bot. Whether this one has done so successfully is up to interpretation. There's lots of things I like about this set, but it's also not perfect. At the end of the day, if you are buying this set, you are basically locked to MMC's scale. If that's fine with you, great, but for me it's just too small.

    I am still going to buy the toy version of this set, but hei I like the Zeta/FT scale/size much better.
     
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    Where’s the real stability gain in Zeta’s approach because I see lower legs slipping off their knee clips all the time. Fraudo’s attachment to Onslaught is rock solid in comparison. I don’t think the stability argument is truly as solid as it presents.
     
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    Sure I get the trade off point, I was just more pointing out the fact that people say "A big part of the G1 toys was they were partsformers so Zeta/FT made representations that most closely resemble that" but Zeta and FT are essentially making shellformers. I agree with @Yertle, Zeta's Bruticus did seem to fall apart a lot when it comes to stability, at least that's what I've seen in some reviews.
     
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    I don't have Zeta Bruticus and I haven't watched these reviews (let me know if you have a specific one showing him falling apart), but my Constructor is VERY stable.
     
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    That was Zeta and MMC, would love to see the size difference between UT and MMC as I think MMC looks the better option.

    Even better having all 3 arms in a row :) 
     
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    I contacted TCP about a replacement on Friday, haven't got a response yet. Contacted them on Facebook today, they said they'll look at it.

    Meanwhile, in the time between when I first contacted them and the second, Impetus sold out. I'm now worried I'm gonna get an apology and a refund, no figure.

    God I sound like I'm whining
     
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    Well from what I know, Armageddon is the weaker of Zeta’s combiners. He’s more an exception to the rule. Basically it should work but it doesn’t for his case.
     
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    If you go to the BSF Armageddon review around the 6:00 mark especially you’ll see the issues with the knees. I think Kronos’s knees also were a weak point. I’ve also been around one in real life where the legs came off between transporting between two different tables for photo shoots. I’ve never handled a Constructor so I can’t speak to that mold’s strength.
     
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    Only Swindle has connection issues on Bruticus. Superion doesn't at all, he's got solid connections and Constructor is ridiculously tight. Too tight actually.

    Ultimately the pants are to aid proportions and boost size. Don't like it that's fine.
     
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    That was the exact video I was going to mention, Swindle falls off right around 8:00
     
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    Oh nice they already darkened the shin wheels on him. Something I requested so they didn't stand out as much as they were before.
     
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    EXTREMELY strong. Connections and ratchets are top notch. Constructor’s only weakness is in his balance. He’s never left my floor and never will.
     
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    You may be partly misunderstanding what I wrote. I didn't say Zeta or FT were doing partsforming because the G1 toys and cartoon did it or to somehow resemble that quirk of G1 source material. They apparently do it because it helps ensure the best possible outcome for the combined form as regards size, articulation, stability. One would imagine if those characteristics could have been satisfied without the hips piece, they would have done so. Rather, my curiosity was that the appearance of partsforming on a Transformer combiner today should not be so distressing to a Transformers fan, given the G1 toys and cartoon made use of partsforming during transformations.
    Asked TCP just now, sounds like the Internet was down at their office so their ability to look into any replacement requests that have been submitted via the website was somewhat curtailed until that's resolved. I wouldn't worry about the figure being sold out. Most retailers will keep a spare of a new standard release product (i.e., non-exclusive or limited edition) on hand specifically to pillage for parts replacement. Barring that, MMC is good about providing replacements as well.
     
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    I really wanted Onslaught/Incursus out before Swindle since I want this set mainly for the combiner articulation and engineering. But waiting for the main bot is gonna feel like forever...
     
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    I transformed UT Vortex correctly this time! In my defense, without seeing the instructions it seems like you just should flip the cockpit around and insert the fist. I didn't realize you're rotating multiple things to get the cockpit flipped while at the same time hiding his thighs.

    To be more accurate, ARMAGEDDON has connection issues at Swindle. Its totally fixed on Bruticon. (Or so I hear)
     
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