Studio Series Constructicon Long Haul

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  1. microclone

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    actually I notice mine does not have that waist piece showing, the torso and pelvis are close to flush, I get a bit of bobbling, but not too much, fyi it gets three ratchet clicks with the rather excessive movement between each.
     
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    ah, cool, so he is actually misassembled! Luckily mine does not have the waist issue and i found the plate was not actually glued, I was fiddling with it and found it independently just now, I was quite excited that it revealed that hidden screw!!

    oddly mine came off with just my nails, it was not glued (if they are supposed to be)

    I might try unscrewing the forearm and just reverse digging out to the slot as the pin in the truck side mean its impossible? to dig into the slot deeper.

    EDIT: this probably does not work as the peg slots in pretty much exactly where the screw enters the arm so the only option is to trim the peg if this fix is to be performed.

    Actually a further look at the arm (left side of truck) tells me it is not the peg that is too long but the actual pin section that the bed side rotates on is too long, when you remove the inner forearm it can move down further. THe right side it makes little difference and maybe the peg is the problem, the asymmetry is odd. I might just leave the truck sides issue alone as as the truck mode is the lesser interest to me.
     
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  3. AndreyOfDoom

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    Does your back pack tab in? On mine neither tab on his kibble catches so the back pack can just fold down and hang off his butt from gravity.
     
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    RE: thedeathshead fix. After opening the pelvis I notice that the 'square/rectangle that anchors the torso and pelvis between ratchet clicks on mine is not even symmetrical, as if it was sliced after moulding, it does not fit especially well into the pelvis to hold its position, this is the 'wiggle' between the ratchets (or perhaps it small neck under the square piece is a bit too small in the gap?) It should be fairly simple to anchor it more firmly, there just doesn't seem to be any sufficient slots for it to fall into. I suppose it could actually be glued to one side (or both) to anchor it tightly, I'm more likely to try and wedge it in there so I can open the pelvis again if need be.
     
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  5. Shmoptimus Prime

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    Sort of. It’s not the best tab but it really doesn’t matter since I’m not exactly having him do hand stands. Plus it’s good that the kibble moves out of the way automatically while rotating the waist.
     
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    I ended up just drilling a small hole through the plate to easily reach the screw. It's barely noticeable since the screw is so deep the light doesn't reach it and the backpack covers it already.
     
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    In order to minimise the wiggle between longhauls waist ratchet clicks the trick is that the peg that goes into the pelvis needs to be held more firmly, it wiggles a bit within the pelvis, the ratchet itself in the abdomen is VERY rigid. THeres a few ways to achieve this but I did a simple fix to superglue a sliver of paper to the square hole at the top of the pelvis, this holds the stalk that the peg is on, it stops the wiggle significantly resulting in a ratchet that feels much more like rampages. It is reassuring that the ussue is not the ratchet as such but just the fact that the peg on the pelvis is not sufficiently held, some expoy/sugru rubber could make a much more permananet holding of the peg on the pelvis, but this was a simple fix for now.

    edit: so having done this fix it does not change the amount of movement between each of the 3 indents in leg mode but it means that between each click the joint is more stiff (so if I pick up the leg and shake it the foot does not wiggle about) I'm tempted to go back in at some point and permanently epoxy one side of the square peg to the inside of the thigh, this will ensure the peg does not move at all in relation to the thigh but still allow access if it was ever needed. Currently the paper trick works very well and it may be sufficient but i'll see in practice how it works on the combined mode as some ease of movement between indents might benefit posing rather than having only 3 fixed positions.
     

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    Did an experiment, and it worked!

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    To eliminate the bowed/bend in the truck mode, slice off the front of the grey knee joint. This allows his leg to be completely straight from hip to heel, instead of being slightly bent.

    On mine, at least, the bowing of the truck was due to the legs not being able to become completely straight. Now? Perfect!
     
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    Do you mind posting a more close-up pic of the area you cut? I'd be interested in doing this too!
     
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    No I'm talking the lower hinge. On mine the kibble at the lower back just flops down so it literally hangs behind his legs blocking the waist entirely.

    The dark grey tab doesn't plug into the one on his back at all.
     
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    I was just about to try messing around with this tonight.
    You can see the hole is designed to fit the shape of the extra detailing on the knee joint, but that detailing is too long to actually fit inside the hole.
     
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    I suppose I should have taken photos of the process. Sorry. @rego0012 saw the same thing I did. The front of the knee joint does not fit into the green groove of the thigh part, though it looks like that was the intention.

    I suggest tapping out the pin for the knee first.

    You can disassemble the lower leg too, but it's not necessary (depending on how you want to physically handle the grey knee bit).

    Here's an illustration of where I cut, noted by the dotted red line.

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    It's just that. Then reassemble!

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    I know... It's an ugly cut, but it got the job done!
     
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    Couldn't you technically widen the area the joint goes into without needing to cut the actual hinge piece?

    Anyway, got one of these today from a friend and true to Studio Series form, one of the leg wheels immediately popped off when pulling the figure out of the tray. I think I'd have been surprised if something didn't immediately fall off.

    I was going to pass altogether since the RotF version is vastly superior as a toy, but I just couldn't because I love Long Haul's movie design. Easily my favorite of the group, and this figure is the better screen representation that I will proudly add to the Long Haul collection. In bot mode, that is.

    Anyway, bot mode is more fun than I thought it would be. Even though I don't turn a blind eye to deficiencies as I have no desire to build Devastator, the hampered articulation isn't as bad as I thought it would be. Not great, but still posable and fun.

    Alt mode is a disaster. Same bowed dump bed as everyone else has, the cab doesn't peg in to the legs securely, and the exposed robot bits are disappointing. The RotF version at least had a movable dump bed, but this one is loaded with arms, gaps and unfortunately, engineering fails.

    Yes, I am critical of the SS line, because I haven't experienced any that are genuinely better than their predecessors outside of Lockdown, even though I was honestly hoping they would be (I really was a movie fan). Long Haul here is actually a very good bot toy, and I enjoy posing it and making him look imposing. The downside is that a Transformer has two modes, and when one is good and one bad, then it loses a lot of credibility for me.

    Overall, I give this a 5/10.
     
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    You could, It’s just easier to shave down the joint. it’s softer plastic and you retain the proper level for the knee to bend to and stop leaving the green plastic in place.
     
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    its a great shame that longhaul has these absolutely glaring design flaws, its shameful that has/tak let it get to that point, however it still works sufficiently and I am still ready for a devastator. The ROTF version whilst scoffed at initially is easily a very good kids toy, even for the time it seems pretty solid and durable. It is sad but I only saw it once in a target.
     
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    So the reason the walls of the tub can’t fully collapse is truly stupid
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    One side I removed half the forearm and it can collapse more, which means when fully assembled the rivet on the end of pole collides with the other half of the forearm, making it impossible to fully collapse

    Removing the rivet might fix the issue, but then the part could come off easily, carving out the inside of the forearm more could solve the issue but that is a really delicate with a height chance of just drilling straight through the forearm, sanding down the rivet might help but it’s a long tedious process to try and fit the geometry of inside the forearm, the best option to fix this is to remove the rivet cut a part out of the shaft and replace the rivet

    Honestly this feels like an oversight, u know what would have fixed this without affecting anything else? To decrease the length of the shaft!!!? Or to increase the inside of the forearm in size and the cavity with it!

    It feels like either that overlooked this issue by not taking into account the size of the rivet, or rivet that got used isn’t the one originally intended to be used, personally my bet is on the former

    So stupid!


    Omg the stupidity never ceases

    One of the screws in the the forearm pokes through and pushes up on the tab in addition to the issue above, the screw is too long!?!??! How does this happen!

    Ok so I finished fixing one side

    Pop the rivet out and what do u know it’s full length

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    So u have to cut it down to size

    And then cut some off the shaft, make sure to leave just enough room for the peg to have clearance when spinning the part

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    Then u cut the screw that is in the wrist
    It prevents full collapse

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    Reassemble, then
    If done correctly 31BB6177-2D4E-41CB-8562-7D932D125444.jpeg
    The result is armor that fully collapses to the forearm in bot mode
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    And side panels that fully collapse in alt mode

    I know this fix might be a bit involved for many but I hope it helped and I hope hastak make a revision
     
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    this toy is a mess :wtf: 
    I just hope it’s issues are fixed for everyone else in later batches
     
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    Okay, I think the solution is a bit simpler than I thought.
    There's a rectangular post that slides into the wrist or arm on either side of the pinned post.
    It's too long.
    I snipped it by about 2 to 3mm, and lookee what the result was:
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    The sides aren't bowed at all, and it all goes together perfectly.
     
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    That’s exactly what jesslynMMC posted a couple pages ago and then I re-posted, it works great.

     
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    Oops, sorry about that. I haven't been following the thread that much and missed it.