Rumor: Next Line after Siege

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by catz, Jul 11, 2019.

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  1. KRPH

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    I think Commander is the best class for this, despite we can get two Voyager Class parts.
     
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    It’s actually not that awkward, mmc magna inventa isn’t far off from what I think a titan skylynx would be size wise. He’s much thicker than commander jetfire
     
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    So no Omega Supreme, right? Let's face it, the only reason for his popularity is because he's huge. He's probably one of the lowest tier characters in season 1. And this describes Sky Lynx as well.

    It's not about needing a Titan to pull anything off except scale, and Generations has a unified scale right now. Hasbro already said that Sky Lynx could be Commander or Titan. It's up to them to decide what it's gonna be, and Omega Supreme gives us precedent for low-popularity non-cityformer non-combiner characters in the class.

    Besides, a space shuttle Titan would give massive replayability in a line with micros.
     
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    titan class is the only class that can properly fit an in scale skylynx, scaling to his smallest appearances would put him in about commander class but would result in him being significantly smaller than predaking. i think people are ignoring the potential of having skylynx be proper sized, think of all the extra space he'd have for transporting figures that aren't just 3 cm tall, he could transport legends size figures or possibly even deluxe (inside his lynx body id imagine).
    the only arguments for him being smaller are basically " well he was a lot smaller in that one ep. and id rather that" and/or "there isnt a reason besides scale for him to be that big" from what I've seen and i don't think those posit enough of a reason for him to be smaller anymore than my arguments posit enough of a reason to be bigger, based on wardens statements he mass-shifts and so can be both, i just hope if they do him as a commander he's a big commander, bigger than jetfire even if hes slightly more hollow.

    at the end of the day i think we will end up with a commander skylynx but people should still recognize how well he'd hypothetically work at titan size, i think its a lot more justified than people believe
     
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    I concede the scale argument, but Commander is not small and I think Titan is Best for City Formers In fact I think you lose tons of detailat Titan Scale. Commander may be better overall.
     
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    titan is best for city formers, but it should be for other characters that fit that size as well, city formers will never be in scale with the current size of figures so no need for scaling them to anyone but their counterpart, and as for the other guys in the class they happen to scale with wfc figures so any bot as big as them in fiction should be titan too
     
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    Well, he is going to be out once NYCC comes.
     
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    Magna Inventa is far smaller than every single Titan class figure thus far. It's more comparable to the old Supreme class which is close to what Commander class is now.
     
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    So that makes Siege Jetfire in par with RotF Devastator, huh?
     
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    Dunno, I don't own ROTF Devastator.
     
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    I do. In fact it was my first Transformers combiner almost 10 years ago. Long before I went into hiatus before coming back in full-blown collecting in 2015.
     
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    Transformers as a franchise has always been big on rivals, Prime has Megatron, Max has Scorponock, Metroplex has Trypticon etc. Can you imagine if Metroplex were Titan Class yet his rival Trypticon were a Leader class?

    Predaking is Sky-Linx's rival, they must be at very least near on par size wise. Commander Class wouldn't put them near par unless it were a very hollow, thin plastic Commander. 20190627_174814.jpg
     
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    I hate these scale arguments. At the end of the day what's going to matter is if Hasbro thinks they can sell a Skylynx toy for $79.99 or $159.99.

    And if I'm being perfectly honest I really don't think Skylynx is enough toy to justify that Titan class price point. I'd love to be proven wrong though.
     
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    Yeah, pretty much this. I'm a sucker for scale but ultimately it comes down to price points and which characters can carry which prices. I'm not sure Skylynx can carry the Titan price point. Hell, Trypticon struggled to sell at the Titan price point and he paired really well with Metroplex. I'm okay being proven wrong here but I just don't think it would work out for Hasbro and Skylynx to go Titan size. :( 
     
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    That particular scale chart is confirmed to be unofficial. =(

    The argument is predicated on the basis that Hasbro is applying a unified scale to the Generations lines(both WFC and Studio Series), at least except for the sizes of gimmick-formers like combined forms and Headmasters.

    Before, the "can't justify a lower-popularity character at a higher price" argument would be sound, but Hasbro doing that now would defeat the purpose of the figure being in a line with unified scale, no?
     
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    Third option: Sky Lynx will be a double commander class sold at a price point between Commander and Titan. That is both parts will be a Commander class figure in terms of materials etc.
     
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    No.

    A couple of points here.

    The exceptions to the unified scale are the characters who don't appear on the (partially incomplete) season 1-3 scale charts. Characters such as Sky Lynx, the season 2 combiners, and everyone from the Rebirth onwards don't don't appear on the scale chart that Hasbro would seem to be adhering to, not just 'gimmick formers and Headmasters'. As you've alluded to yourself, they're certainly not using the scale chart that @PrimalFury has posted, with Crosshairs and Flywheels appearing around Voyager height, rather than the Deluxe scale we're getting them at. This post I did a few weeks back outlines this with a bit more context.

    Based on this anecdotal evidence, John Warden himself has stated that Sky Lynx could fit in either class. He's even invoked mass shifting, which is a further spanner in the works for those insisting that their can be no deviations from the scale chart (which chart?).

    For me, the scale arguments become torture when a poster comes in and insists that a character MUST be this size class. It's a killjoy and it's based on an incredibly blinkered reading of the data available that shuts down, or derails, potentially interesting discussion or even just prevents people from expressing an honest, owned opinion.

    The "can't justify a lower-popularity character at a higher price" price argument may still well be very valid. We don't know Hasbro's decision making criteria, and to act like we do with any degree of certainty, is daft. At best we can assume Hasbro will make pragmatic decisions based on the universal set of the 'what are we confident will sell', 'what are the design team excited about', and 'what can we do within the allocated budget' venn diagram. When we get an original mold Titan Grandus THEN we can put that argument to bed (at least until budgets change).

    While this may seem ironic, considering I feel like I'm delivering a lecture, could we maybe just stop telling people that they're wrong? Share a viewpoint, by all means, but 'that won't work in the unified scale chart' isn't a viewpoint. It's an authoritative statement.
     
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    They could easily solve the problem by making a titan Raiden as Predaking's rival, though.
     
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    6 Deluxe trains?
     
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    6 voyagers, like Devastator.
     
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