Avengers (4): Endgame - Movie Discussion

Discussion in 'Movies and Television' started by eagc7, Apr 22, 2018.

  1. Dark Skull

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  2. Prime Red

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    Nothing else is going to top it. Theaters will be dead in ten years.
     
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    Isn't the rumor that this will still be in some theaters right until the end of September? If so, man, it'll definitely help make that margin wider & wider.

    Hey btw, I've been checking on the daily for any new Steelbook designs that might still get unveiled - trying to find one using the poster imagery that you want - but nothing new/different yet. Still just the bleh "characters weirdly in front of the ashy A" ones, unfortunately.
     
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    I haven't heard any news of any other steelbook goodness either. Eh well, it comes out on 8/13 (Avengers: Endgame 4K Blu-ray) so I guess I'll find out what's all inside it then :D  If the movie is going to still be in theaters and it's creeping up to being more than 2 mill beyond Avatar, then that "hidden" 2 mill could have just stayed hidden :lol  But whatevers. Still happy to be a part of that though. I only saw it 3 times :lol 
     
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    And yeah, about the steelbook, my stance is still the same. I have it preordered but I really don’t like that cover art. A steelbook is only as good as the artwork. If I’m gonna cancel it for the 4K Cinematic Universe edition, which comes with all the same stuff anyway, I should do it quickly. August 13 is approaching fast (@Dark Skull that’s also the day that my selection board convenes :D :confused: :oops: )
     
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    In Germany as well
     
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    Thanks in large part to movies like Avengers Endgame.
     
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    I though the same thing in that scene! That would be a group effert not one guy. Lol.
     
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    Forgive me but I don't follow the logic here
     
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    I doubt it, people said this 10 years ago.

    Theatres will simply adapt. They have before, and will again.
     
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    Did they really though? The box office numbers are tanking and streaming is getting more popular then ever. There will still be theaters but they will be a very niche thing.
     
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    Just saw it. Id give it a solid 8/10 first viewing. Definitely need to watch it a few more times. Few points:

    - Thor's depression was understandable. Technically he dealt Thanos two mortal blows and still failed to save everyone.

    - Captain Marvel suddenly being known by all the Avengers was poorly handled. She's way too stoic but its not a deal breaker.

    - Banner Hulk was also a little too jarring but not a deal breaker either for me. The storyline kind of necessitated Banner Hulk.

    - Natasha's death on Vormir became obvious the moment their team composition was revealed to be only her and clint. I can KIND of understand that Nebula didn't know the exact method of why Thanos killed Gamora to get the soul stone. But a little bit of critical thinking would have solved that error.

    - Thanos defeating Thor with two weapons was a stretch but the reversal of stormbreaker stabbing Thor was a nice touch.

    - I liked that the new Thanos was able to quickly deduce that only killing half the universe was futile.

    - Steve returning the stones alone only makes sense if you believe that was a deliberate loophole for future captain america movies. I believe it was.
     
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    The success of super-budget tentpole films is pushing studios to only pursue those films, at the expense of every other product being shopped around. Soon there will be less movies in general, causing artificial spikes in box office shares, followed by tremendous dead spells for theaters.
     
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    I think what happened with Carol knowing the others is... well, at least I think. I think the general idea is that the Captain Marvel midcredits scene is when she actually meets them. And presumably Rocket asked Carol to look for the Benatar, which was at least their closest bet to finding the other Guardians and also getting them a ship to hunt Thanos. So Carol went for the Benatar and found Tony and Nebula. That’s why she already knows them by the movie proper.

    That said, I feel like the conversation about where has Carol been, as well as her reaction to Fury’s death, indicates that this was their first meeting, which flies in the face of all I just said. My best guess is that the Captain Marvel midcredits scene was kinda like the Thor 1 postcredits scene where Selvig is being controlled by Loki, which didn’t pan out when Avengers actually came out. Same for the Ultron teaser where Thanos already has a Gauntlet despite making Eitri make his own.

    As for Thanos beating dual wielding Thor, remember that Thor is fat and out of shape, he just barely stopped drinking a few hours beforehand, and this is likely his first fight since he let himself go. Thor is strong, but he’s become slow, and unfortunately Thanos is strong and fast.
     
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    Yeah, they keep pumping 200+ million into movies reaching for that B and when they fail, they tend to fail hard.
     
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    My take on this matter is the following: Avatar "cheated" its way to the top. Avatar is not a movie everyone thinks highly of. Everyone wanted to take it off its throne. Now that Endgame did this, the movie industry could fall down thinking there's no need to challenge itself now that a movie worthy of the top spot is there. Unlike Avatar, the audience loved Endgame and see it deserving the spot, and now there's no need to wish for something to take it down. Hell, it's really a miracle it actually made it this far. And now the challenge has ended.
     
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    I don't know if I'd go as far as to say "cheated", but I do think the fact that Avatar sold mostly 3D tickets (which are more expensive than regular tickets) lessens it's success a little bit. In my head, Endgame was the clear winner, even before it beat Avatar.
     
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    Completely disagree. Don't get me wrong, I have always thought Avatar was dogshit, but 10 YEARS AGO it was an undeniable box office AND cultural force to be reckoned with, whether some of us liked it or not. It single-handedly started the (true) 3D phenomenon - again, for better or worse - and was indeed absolutely loved & adored by umpteen millions of people. There were literally even support groups and counseling provided to (seemingly unastable) people that went threw 'withdrawl' from the movie, it's universe... all that shit after it left theaters.

    It's easy to sit here now a decade later saying no one liked it and/or that everyone agrees Endgame is THE movie of movies that will go unchallenged because of its adoration, but the former is bullshit and that latter will also change in time. In 5-10 years, guaranteed, something else will come along that "deserves" to dethrone Endgame... because 10 years later, opinions will sour and people will start saying the same thing that they do about Avatar.
     
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    That'd be great. There's way too much movies. Not marvel though, those could be more.
     
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    Personally, I feel like the opposite needs to happen. Less big 'tentpole' blockbusters, and more moderately-budgeted films. This is why something like Bumblebee was a success, despite making less than 500,000,000. It didn't need to be a huge mega-hit, just a solid success.

    So many blockbusters recently are flopping or underpreforming. They're just being given such big budgets, which leads to more focus on spectacle over story. And audiences are getting burnt out on spectacle. Cut down the budgets, and force filmmakers to focus on good storytelling and practical filmmaking.
     
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