Anyone else actually enjoying the reboot?

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  1. That Guy

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    I think things have been a bit slow. But I'm enjoying a story firmly starting before the war with no need to flashback, and I'm enjoying the different mythology and history to cybertron right now.
     
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    Writing is ok, albeit obviously it's written for trades. I'll be getting only trades for this reboot. The art, on the other hand... It's just lifeless most of the time.
     
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    They’ve definitely gone in a weird direction with the art. It’s not that it’s bad per sa. It’s just really boring. It serves its purpose, the character designs are clear and I can follow the action, but there’s nothing particularly interesting or memorable about it. It doesn’t leap of the page or wow me. It’s just sort of there doing what it has to do and nothing more. “Lifeless” is definitely a good word for it.
     
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    Oh yeah, that is a good point, to me any scene with Megatron or Optimus looks weird. Are they like, CGI models overlayed in the comic cells? Reminds me of really stiff cellshading rather than something drawn.
     
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    Agree with you. The art is not doing the book any favors. It kinda tilts towards the janky side for me, and it makes the book hard to read. This set of panels encapsulate some of the issues I have with this book:

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    As a general note, I'm not sure about the shading in this new book. The color is crisp and clean, but it all seems very flat as if it was supposed to be for a simple cartoon. However, the characters also have a busy look to them due to all the Siege inspired greebling. As a result, I think it makes for an odd combination where my brain is expecting to see this animated, but the designs are too busy for that to actually be the case. It's a distinct style, at least.

    I personally do not like the new Elita design. Most Elita designs are pretty terrible, but this one is particularly egregious and has a bad case of Princess Tiny Feet. No artist should invoke Rob Liefeld anatomy on purpose.

    There is no reason these three panels should exist if you ask me. They just fill up space and have no sense of action - almost as if they're there solely to avoid dumping walls of exposition in one panel. Again, the Windblade books knew how to frame a walk and talk. Both Sarah Stone and Sara Pitre-Durocher managed a lot of dynamic angles and conveys motion very well in almost every page for what amounts to a conversation. While I'm not saying every panel has to convey loads of motion, it definitely helps. It also provides more gravitas to the panels that DON'T have a lot of motion - something that this book is evidently trying to do. That's not going to come across when every page and every panel is basically just people standing around or taking leisurely strolls where they move a few inches a panel.

    Anyhow, just my take on the art in this book. The dialogue is it's own beast, but it really could all be saved by some nice art which this really isn't managing.
     
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    I'm starting to. The initial 5-issue run was hurt by poor pacing and in particular by poor artwork. I actually wouldn't mind seeing what those scripts might look like with better art. But I find the new world -- and its implied or openly stated history -- to be fascinating. I liked the look at the young, daredevil Megatron, and also the setup of him being The Starscream to Termagax (I'm assuming that's what's gonna happen, I'm not sure though.) Even the Ascenticon logo clearly being a proto-Decepticon logo, turned upside down, is cool.

    Cyclonus and his chorus of dead folks is DEFINITELY the single most interesting character.
     
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    This slow-burning pace and beautiful art is exactly what I'm after. I love it. Plus the cover art on some variants is worth it alone.
     
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    Doesn't hold a candle to Lost Light and to this day, I'm angry about all the haters that were spamming these threads right up until the last comic.

    I'm an avid Siege fan, but I wonder what are all the limitations holding the writers back because there's definitely something holding them back.
    I don't mind the art, but almost nothing happens, everyone is deadpan.

    What do I recommend? I don't know, actually....but we need a lot more Cyclonus, I guess.
     
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    I'm inclined to agree. I'm not keen on Angel Hernzandez's style. Some of the close ups aren't good.

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    Yeah, I feel like having the Optimus/Megatron issue be #5 is awkward. Number four could easily work as number 5 and just be the first part of The Cracks Beneath your Feet, though it's picking up now. It's nice now we're getting more characters in. Helps build the world.
     
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    Still couldn't bring myself to read this :/
     
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    If it takes you awhile to bring yourself to read it and then there's 2 trades worth, then you'll be able to read this at a much faster clip than we did!
     
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    Not at all. I'm not kidding when I say there's a LOT of wasted space in the pages. Money shot panels that serve no real purpose but to fill up a page. I gave up after reading 5 issues and from the looks of it the pace hasn't picked up. It would take an amazing artist to bring me back to reading the series again at least that way if the story still sucks I can get distracted by the artwork.
     
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    I'll point out how IDW started out with Infiltration, not exactly known for it's fast clip either.
     
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    I think it's more because most people aren't used to comic arc being longer then 6 issues. It really messes with their pace perception.
     
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    I AGREE 100% THE ARTWORK IS
     
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    I didn't like it at first, but it's began growing on me...mostly because the story is coming out like a mystery. I think I would liked it a lot sooner if there was some kind of explanation about all the events the characters keep mentioning, such as The Three Fold Spark War, who are the The Rise and the Ascenticons, etc, just so I would have an idea about what kind world this continuity exists as.
     
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    I just bought the first 10 issues, as they are on sale right now. If you read it in one go, it's actually interesting, although I'm sad about Rubble. But still, the issues are much too short. If I would only read one issue, I would think nothing really happened. I think it really hurts comics when a single issue is not long enough anymore to feel as if it could stand on its own as a story, but you really need to read all issues in one session. Once I'm done, I still don't think I will subscribe. I probably might wait for another sale to read the rest also in one go then.

    And I still would rather read stories set in the old continuity. Or be able to buy the IDW beast wars books through comixology. Or that they make Transformers Animated Season 4 as a comic.
     
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    The book would be ok at best of it had god-tier artwork. If every issue looked as good as Unicron or basically any issue Milne ever drew then the purchase would at least be warranted to look at the pretty pictures. This is a comic book. Comics books a visual media and in any visual media the visuals carry as much weight at the writing so the whole "just read the story hatur" argument that always happens when you criticize artwork is nothing but consumerist bootlicking because if I just wanted the story I'd go and read anything other than Transformers because to be frank most of Transformers fiction is crap that is only exciting to follow because of the visuals.

    But even if I could somehow get into this mindset that artwork isn't important in a comic book there is still basically nothing happening and what little is happening is stilted, seen already and done better then and it has so little worthwhile dialogue that you can read the whole thing in 30 seconds. You could fit the entirety of these 10 books into one issue (I'd go as far as say in half an issue) and lose nothing of value. That's how filled with nothing this series is.

    The entire book is hinged on us being in love how beautiful everything is but the art for this book is so thoroughly crap that there is zero reason to buy a single issue of it other than blind franchise fan loyalty.

    I gave it a show for almost a full year now and no I will not follow it anymore. When they get a new writer I might come back but not likely.