Spider-Man: Far From Home (2019)

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  1. OldDirtyBot

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    No where near as good as Homecoming for me but still much better than Captain Marvel overall for me. It had plenty of entertainment value. Wasn't crazy with the direction they pushed with Spidey. After Homecoming, Civil War, and IW\EG he's proved himself plenty and stepped up and ran towards danger anytime he needed to. To keep that as a recurring theme gets old. It also makes it feel like he's had no growth over the last years we've been watching him. Let him grow up a little and be Spider-Man instead of keeping him Spider-Teen.
     
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    2. I too am fine with the techy suits. Lets look at them from the MCU view. He started with the sweats before he met Tony. He was doing great street level stuff. Tony figures out who he is and gives him a tech suit, but puts locks on it. It was meant to be training wheels. Gradually ease into them. Discover new stuff. But he and Ned hack the suit. This turns it from safe to a loaded gun. He becomes wreckless and Tony takes it back. Then he defeates Vulture in the no tech sweats. He showed he deserves the suit. Tony upgrades him to Iron Spider for Endgame. Here he goes to a non tech stealth suit till the end. Even then it isn't super tech like Iron Spider.

    And i kinda agree on Tobey. I liked him better than Garfield, but he is a distant second to Holland. Holland IS Parker. He looks like a kid. He is goofy, awkward, talks a mile a minute when nervous. McGuire was a sad sack. He sounded whiney or bored half the time. He was good for what we had. Garfield was too cool modern for me. Parker needs to be eye rollingly nerdy lame. Garfield was a hipster douche. He got Spidey right, but hated Parker. I hated his films more than McGuire. Holland is a perfect mix. Goofy nerd Parker, wisecracking Spidey. This is the one we deserved.
     
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    Once again, Spider-Man: Far From Home proves that Tom Holland was born to play Peter Parker. Like Spider-Man: Homecoming, this film continues Peter's struggle to balance his responsibilities as both a high school student and a superhero, but following the aftermath of Avengers: Endgame, he carries a bigger burden due to his direct association with the late Tony Stark. The film also explains how Peter and majority of his high school, as well as a portion of New York, had to cope with returning to existence.

    Jake Gyllenhaal gives an outstanding performance as Quentin Beck/Mysterio, a hero from an alternate Earth who arrives to battle the Elementals. However...

    the alternate timeline plot turns out to be a red herring, and Beck is revealed to be working with a group of disgruntled ex-Stark Industries employees to con everyone into believing him to be a hero.

    The storyline is great, but not without its flaws. The first act may be a bit dragging due to its reliance on exposition and main focus on Peter's school life. The plot twist within the second act is genius, but there are a few missteps to its execution towards the end. Furthermore, some hardcore Spider-Man fans may still be upset that...

    Peter is still relying on Stark tech, and the main villain once again has personal beef with Stark instead of being a direct arch-nemesis of Peter.

    As far as surprises go...

    it's great to see J. K. Simmons reprising his role as J. Jonah Jameson from the Sam Raimi Trilogy. However, the real twist is Nick Fury and Maria Hill actually being the Skrulls Talos and Soren, respectively.

    In conclusion, Spider-Man: Far From Home is not as good as Homecoming, but it's a great way to close MCU's Phase 3 and get fans ready for Phase 4.

    Rating: B+



    Marvel Cinematic Universe
    1. Avengers: Endgame
    2. Avengers: Infinity War
    3. The Avengers
    4. Iron Man
    5. Captain America: Civil War
    6. Guardians of the Galaxy
    7. Captain America: The First Avenger
    8. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
    9. Spider-Man: Homecoming
    10. Black Panther
    11. Doctor Strange
    12. Thor: Ragnarok
    13. Spider-Man: Far From Home
    14. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
    15. Ant-Man and the Wasp
    16. Ant-Man
    17. Avengers: Age of Ultron
    18. Thor
    19. Iron Man 3
    20. Captain Marvel
    21. The Incredible Hulk
    22. Thor: The Dark World
    23. Iron Man 2

    Spider-Man Films
    1. Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017)
    2. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018)
    3. Spider-Man: Far From Home (2019)
    4. Spider-Man 2 (2004)
    5. The Amazing Spider-Man (2012)
    6. Spider-Man (2002)
    7. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2015)
    8. Spider-Man 3 (2007)
     
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    I watched a cam quality version of the mid credit scene.

    Can’t believe they ended with other “What the F-“
     
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    Another reminder because evidently the first wasn't clear.

    Spoilers need to be under spoiler tags.


    {spoiler}These are the spoilers that you want to hide.{/spoiler}

    You can use the above, just replace { with [ and } with ]

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    A thought occurs to me-

    in "Captain Marvel" it's established that Nick Fury only goes by "Fury" in most circumstances; it's a major tell when Talos refers to him as "Nicholas" instead.

    But in the post-credits scene for "Infinity War," Maria Hill only refers to Fury as "Nick."

    ...so just how long have they been setting up the reveal at the end of THIS movie?!?!
     
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    I didn't care for Spider-man 2. Heck I even though 3 was more entertaining except for the stupid street dancing sequence.

    But X-men 2....That was amazing.

    Another thing I don't like is MJ. I couldn't stand Kirsten Dunst and I don't feel Zendaya either.

    Finally, having Uncle Ben as an emotional tether, I don't feel the same with Stark in relation to Peter in that way. Don't get me wrong, I was balling for while when he died, but in relation to Peter, just doesn't hit me as hard. I can't really put it into words.


    I will say though, the Special Effects were amazing.
     
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    Oh well all know Uncle Ben is there in his heart, but audiences didn't want to hear about Uncle Ben again, which is why he hasn't been mentioned. Although, I totally expected
    Uncle Ben to show up in Peter's illusions and they would have used that to set up the origin tale. I know they are going to do it eventually, it is just going to be come down to when and how.
     
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    I honestly don't think we're going to see Uncle Ben in these movies. These stories take place after the origin story, which Marvel has seemingly decided to skip, because everyone knows it. They've found other ways to give Peter motivation, so it's really not necessary.
     
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    Just saw Spidey FFH

    Pros:

    The increased demands of power and responsibility weighed more on Peter this film.

    Humor

    Gyllenhaal performance was great in all “aspects” of Mysterio

    The first credit sequence -Holy Shit!

    The romantic elements. Michelle was a lot less dopey/weird compared to Homecoming. This film struck a good balance.


    Cons

    Once again a macguffin is related to Tony Stark and is prominent in the film. I hope the sequel moves away from this.

    I would have liked to see more variety in action. Action was good but after playing the PS4 game and seeing John Wick my standards have increased.

    Overall: 8/10
     
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    I really liked the decreased amount of gadgets in this movie. The high-tech Spider suit was probably one of my lesser-liked aspects of Homecoming. It felt like he had an unlimited amount of gadgets. "576 web-shooter combinations!" "Robot spider drone!" "instant kill mode!" "thermal vision!" "audio enhancement!" Unlimited gadgets works great for Iron Man (that's kind of his thing), but I feel like Spider-Man works better when he has to rely on his wits. Even the filmmakers realized this, hence why they took that suit away for the final battle. In this one they made his power set more limited, and more clear, and those particular gadgets actually came into play later. The setup and payoff was better.

    I also really liked MJ/Michelle in this one. I'm one of the few people who actually liked the character in Homecoming, and was opposed to replacing her with a more conventional MJ (I'm sure there were a lot of other people who liked her, but there were a lot of complainers). That much being said, she was more of a one-note comedy character in the first movie. She just kind of popped up to make jokes, and then disappeared. Here she felt more fleshed out, and more like a proper character.
     
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    You missed the 2 hours beforehand.
     
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    Pretty simple all. If it is a spoiler, it needs to be behind spoiler tags. This is the third warning in two days.

    We'll have to start down the way of thread bans and further actions of this keeps up.
     
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    Again the idea of the first suit was he was supposed to figure out stuff on his own. It was supposed to happen slowly. He disabled the locks and suddenly had access to tons of power. He had the greater power, but was irresponsible. Taking it away helped him learn. I like how they use it though. It isn't a use maximum force type thing, it is more stategic aid. If he went in with Iron Suit, shot missles at stuff, i'd be pissed. Everytime he really tries to use Stark Tech, it goes wrong. Not spoiling anything, but Look at the bus sequence here. He fouls stuff up and has to undo it.

    I too like MJ more here. She was a bit of a bitch in Rami. Ok she knows Peter is Spiderman. He is struggling to be a hero, go to school, have a job, etc and she bitches he can't make it to her play? Priorities girl. I'm sure he'd love to go. Not like he ditches your play to go to the bar or something. He is saving lives woman! This MJ will joke and mess with Pete, but now that she knows, she understands. She likes he is weird.
     
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    Fixed :thumb 
     
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    Oh, I completely agree with you, the suit in Homecoming was handled very well and definitely contributed to Peter's character growth. Storywise it was fine, I just don't particularly love the idea of it (mostly the potential implications of it)....

    ...and I'm glad they reigned it in a bit for the sequel. It could have easily become an Iron Man suit, if they had continued to add abilities in each new movie, which is kind of what I expected after the Iron Spider in Infinity War/Endgame.
     
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    About the post credits scenes:

    Easiest way to deal with Peter's identity being exposed is to simply have a Skree publicly impersonate him while he does superhero feats as Spider-Man.

    The story can then continue on with Parker's secret identity safe, but still disputes over whether Spider-Man is a hero or a villain.
     
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    That would actually be a really fun idea, but I can't see it happening. They probably wouldn't have revealed his identity if they're just going to walk back on it next movie.

    Tony's revelation of being Iron Man generally worked in his favor. But since Spider-Man has so many life struggles, I'm guessing the next movie will focus on how having his identity revealed affects his life, probably in negative ways. Sort of a contrast against Tony. That seems like the logical route to go.
     
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    I’m still hoping the third movie has Kraven as the villain. I mean he’s the perfect choice.
     
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    exactly. Have him hold a press conference with Skrull impersenating Peter. Voice modulate via the suit to sound older and you got deniability. Vouching via remaining Avengers and you got good graces. Have Skrull be Peter, Spidey shoots webs sticks to walls, etc.