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  1. Kamijou Touma

    Kamijou Touma ミサカ10032

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    Awesome, I love her gundam music.
     
  2. deathzero23

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    I was surprised with Advent of the Red Coment.
    But it's just a recompilation of The Origin OVA.
    Much like what they did with Unicorn.
    I'd say 25 to 30 mins tops per episode?
     
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  3. Hadlen_Weltall

    Hadlen_Weltall The original Mad Genius Gunpla and Cow Master

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    They had fun making that and it was funny seeing it pop up in the film after the "Celestial Being" movie trailer on the billboard.
     
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    greboguru Psychedelic Brainchild

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    Just watched Gundam NT. I liked it quite a lot. The art direction was a bit underwhelming, but the story was solid -- and clearer than a lot of other Newtype-oriented stories. Quite satsifying. Also notable that there were zero original MSs other than the Narrative Gundam itself. Heck, even it is basically a Nu variant.
     
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  5. deathzero23

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    Is the story over? Like is it a one-shot OVA? I haven't seen Narrative Gundam's FULL FORM or was there any? Or is it just A-B-C Packs filling the parts of Narrative Gundam?
     
  6. greboguru

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    It's a direct sequel to Gundam UC, with some of the characters having a small role. The Gundam NT movie is a self-contained story, there's really no "to be continued" kind of thing. I meean the ending offers hints of more later being possible, but those are just hints. And yeah, the whole point of the Narrative Gundam is that it doesn't have a full form. The A/B/C-Packs are all it gets, with the C-Pack being the closest to a "full form."

    I should add that I found the human drama in Gundam NT very engaging too. A tight, compelling cast.

    The next Gundam series is to be a 3-movie adaptation of the Hathaway's Flash novels that Tomino wrote back in 1989-90, with the first movie coming this winter. Very excited for that.
     
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  7. Hadlen_Weltall

    Hadlen_Weltall The original Mad Genius Gunpla and Cow Master

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    They did say something about UC 2, and the return of a certain... white Gundam. Eventually,

    I can only hope if the trend of filling in the blanks on the Universal Century calendar in animation continues with other book titles, "Blue Destiny" and the "Lost War Chronicles" could literally be combined into a series of short OAVs, as an anthology, even bridge to the Johnny Ridden books.

    Though in line with Hathaway's Flash,the novel I want to see adapted the most is "Sentinel."
     
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    greboguru Psychedelic Brainchild

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    Agreed on all counts! However, the current focus seems to be the "UC Next 0100 Project" -- basically, filling in stories that take place after Char's Counterattack. Hence the adaptation of Hathaway's Flash.

    So, much as I'd love to see Sentinel animated -- and other Z/ZZ-era sidestories as well -- we're more likely to see Crossbone Gundam animated. Which I'm cool with! Love that nutty little manga.

    I'm certainly happy to leave the One Year War behind. It's such a narrow window for the Federation to have Mobile Suits, and they've already totally overdone it so much that they've strained credulity to the limits.

     
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    Celestial Being: The Movie with Subs was the best bullying of the fansubs community before prozd did it better
     
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  10. Hadlen_Weltall

    Hadlen_Weltall The original Mad Genius Gunpla and Cow Master

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    I don't disagree, we've seen enough of the One Year War having experienced the original series, and 08th Team, 0080, and everytime someone shouts "Sieg Zeon!" before reminding us of the Colony Drop... If they were to retread it all over again, then you know what fans want in the form of a total Redux with modern animation, but their best means of doing it would be to adapt the ORIGINS version of the story. If so, I wouldn't mind seeing the final production version of the Gouf.

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    However, with the compendium of stories and events that happened in side stories and sequels, say from "UC" with the inclusion of Laplace and the history of said colony spoken about by a character who was in the original series.

    On the other hand, if they did the Lost War Chronicles, they could combine it with the other side stories that haven't been adapted. What gave me this impression was "0083 Rebellion" the manga retelling of "Stardust Memory" because they have interspersed chapters which follow up with some of those characters whose stories take place during the OYW, in the post war period of 0082 to 0083, and pre-Zeta period. You even see characters like Sanders and Eledore.

    but... It's like you said, they're focused on the gap between the Third Neo-Zeon War/Laplace Incident and the Crossbones Vanguards claim of the Frontier Sides. So there's still gaps between "NT" in UC0097 and UC0105, "Hathaways Flash," and then to UC0123, "F91" which of course leads straight into "Crossbones." So there's another 18 years gap between the End of the Federation vs Spacenoids/Newtypes period and the later events. In which time they can properly close the history book of when Zeonism and the Newtype "Myth" disappear completely from the geopolitical stage.

    The whole introductory premise to "UC" was about explaining how did things begin to change after "Char's Counterattack," why did Newtypes become "legendary" or how there's no remnants of Zeon in the Crossbones Vanguard. However, the shadows of what could be considered "true" Zeonism is still there. the Crossbones' founder Meitzer Ronah actually follows some of Zeon Deikun's philosophy regarding the Earth itself being a sacred world, sparing the Federation Civilian Population (despite of Iron Mask's total genocidal plans), while unifying the Space colonies as a Superior Race... just proof they still can't escape the Zabi influence.

    Though, otherwise "NT" maintains that tradition of when a story takes place within in a time gap between older stories, and leaves no canonical changes that could risk retconning the series that came before it, yet set chronologically afterwards. Sorry ZZ haters but it still happens regardless of the Zeta Movies' Tomino apology/happy ending. Even So, throwaway lines of dialogue like "After the events of the Laplace incident, nothing changed and Singularity One disappeared from the history books..." only makes you want to know more.

    Although.. I wouldn't mind seeing the Silhouette Formula F91 series adapted. We are getting the P.Bandai Gundam F90 this year.. and its story deserves some spotlight too besides another Gundam ACE manga.

    It's also funny how they actually have "Behind the Scenes" material for that movie within the movie. In one of the production art/story material books for the 00 Film (I have a copy saved to a harddrive somewhere) in which they have "photos" taken from the set with actors dressed up as Mobile Suits akin to rubber monster suits, and even theater posters.

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    Of course, it too is saturated in Anti-ALAWS Unified Earth Nations propaganda. but it's Obari'asfuq.

    Yeah, my first experience of seeing the movie were through Fansubs, if they weren't too literal or jumbled in their translation IE, "I said I told you not to die, I said!"

    but then there are some fansubs that go out of their way to make things "wrong".. say at the scene when..
    Allelujah/Hallelujah go Synchronous Super Soldier and activate Marute Mode, "Marie, after this can we f***?" "Roger that!" and for the wide panning shot of Harute flying in circles "I'M GONNA GET LAID TONIGHT!!!!!"
     
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  11. SPLIT LIP

    SPLIT LIP Be strong enough to be gentle

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    Holy shit I love it. "Because Celestial Being was English in the original, we decided to make it Japanese here." :lol 
     
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    biscuits Sin from Genesis

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    Got an import of the Gundam NT Blu-Ray, nice that the box fits right in with the JP Unicorn Blu-Rays. Came with a little artcard thing as well. Film was alright, felt a little disappointed in it. Animation was alright but nowhere near as good as Unicorn. Villain was very basic and kind of out of nowhere. Was a decent mostly self-contained story though.

    In even better news the original film Trilogy is being re-released in the UK alongside the first BD release of Char's Counterattack next month, got in pre-orders for them at £20 each which is rather nice. Got to say I really do love the releases this UK company make. Gundam Wing and Gundam 00 are also coming to Blu-Ray for the first time in the UK this year, didn't like Wing at all when I watched it ages ago but excited for 00 to actually be available to buy; UK only ever got season 1 on DVD.

    Also finished Turn A recently, I really liked it. Definitely very different. Only complaints I have is that it didn't really feel like anything important or of much consequence happened for half of the show and some characters felt incredibly unhuman in how stupid they could be. Also a surprisingly sad ending for Sochie, and only Sochie. Now I just have F91, Victory and X left to watch for UC.
     
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    You want to talk about sad endings, wait until you watch Victory...
     
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    when i first watched Wakening i was so goddamn confused because i thought i was watching a fansub. then i hit pause to read.
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  15. YellowCorvette

    YellowCorvette Average Core Gundam enjoyer

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    Just watched Mobile Suit Gundam F91. Overall, I'll give it a 5/10.

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    This is an alright anime movie and it's watchable, but the pacing of this movie feels incredibly rushed and there are a lot of things that didn't really makes sense. I heard that this movie was originally supposed to be a full 49 episodes TV anime and was forced to be compressed into this movie due to various reasons, and it really shows. I don't really care about F91 much, and even then I wish that this "movie" could be fully realized into an actual TV anime as it supposed to be.

    Consider that Bandai/Sunrise is now focusing on this "UC next 100" thing, I'll like to see F91 gets adapted properly as there's some ideas in this movie that I do like. The F91 Gundam itself looks pretty good as well (Even if I could do without the silly "Power-up face" thing), and the MS itself also bears some similarities to G-Saviour (Another MS that I genuinely like despite its conteroversial source) with the back fin thrusters, shoulder design and awesome beam-shield generator gauntlet, which is kinda interesting.
     
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  16. Autobot Burnout

    Autobot Burnout ...and I'll whisper "No."

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    Kind of related, but whereas 'Twilight Axis' is kind of absolutely unrelated to everything except maybe establishing that a Char's Zaku III existed as a backup to the Sazabi, it does involve whatever is the predecessor to the first incarnation of the Crossbone Vanguard (the organization that hires the two assholes, gives them Gunam Tristiam and Byarlant Isolide, and then tells them to go to the remains of Axis for some reason).

    And while a Gundam Sentinel would be amazing - especially since then it would be highly likely the Plan 303E Deep Striker would appear in canon and maybe we could get a proper kit of the Gundam Mk. V - the problem is I think Bandai only has rights to the mobile suit designs and literally nothing else from Sentinel (characters, plot, etc), due to the gray legal situation of when Sentinel was made basically as a quick way to hock out a few more mobile suit model kits.
     
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    Well, Sunrise does have some means of releasing something when they've had the S Gundam appear in Build Fighter . Though, it's just like Silhouette Formula F91, a run of kits with some story material written into the kit manuals.
     
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    No, Sentinel was a text story (with lots of model diorama photos and some illustrations) that was serialized in Model Graphix and was collected into a big, awesome book.
     
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    I know, I'm just saying from the "made to sell models' aspect. and I really enjoyed the translated version of Sentinel I got to read. and with a fan animated sequence like this, let's see Sunrise try and top it.

     
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    areaseven Live to Win

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