Mattel Jurassic World 2

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  1. SHINOBI03

    SHINOBI03 Well-Known Member

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    It could've been worse.
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    I'd have actually preferred it to look more like the Ultimasaurus. They should've gone nuts with the design!

    It's supposed to be a crazy hybrid mash-up, but almost looks like a totally ordinary theropod...

    Basically, it's just a carcharodontosaurid, with some abelisaurid-like cranial ornamentation, a more robust skull (though the fenestrae are still too large for it to be as solid as a tyrannosaur), overdeveloped forelimbs, osteoderms, and teeth that match more of a crocodylomorph morphology.

    That's just me being a nerd. From a movie monster/JP perspective, it is still a pretty cool design. And I love the toy. :D 

    Those other designs you showed though....wow, they're bad!!!
     
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    Don't diss the Chaos Effect, or it will, uh, uh, create utter chaos on a global scale.
     
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    Exactly, if your not going to be realistic then go balls-to-the-wall with the design, something like Ultimasaurus would have been wicked to see on the big screen.

    Indoraptor:

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    Even if these dinosaurs aren't 100% accurate they're still meant to be represented as dinosaurs. The Ultimasaurus and Chaos Effect are cool looking toys but they don't fit the style of the books or movies.

    As Rey Harryhausen once said on dinosaurs in films:
    "We're not making a film for professors because they usually don't see these kinds of films, and we're making films to entertain the public. So, certain liberties are taken. But basically, the whole principle is to make them as accurate as possible."
     
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    That’s a moot point: Dilophosaurus doesn’t have a neck frill. Again, if your not going to be accurate, at least have fun with it.
     
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    And I hate the frill because I can't find decent Dilophosaurus toys without the frills thanks to the movies making everyone believe that's how these dinosaurs were like.
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    Not even animatronics were safe.
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    Shiobio3, my friend, I enjoy your views on things, especially when you tore down NC on Youtube, but I think you're missing the entire point of a Kid's Toyline. Kenner/Hasbro were in the business to make money, kids love dinosaurs, let's go all out to keep the franchise relevant since it's taking so long between films. Chaos Effect was a toyline aimed to keep Jurassic Park on toy shelves in between films. Was it successful? Hard to say, but it did what it wanted and didn't need to worry about the relevance of book or movie plots.

    It's kind of like that new LEGO set with the T-Rex Mech. It's not remotely accurate to any of the previous source material, but it's a fun looking toy.

    If you want realism in your dinosaur toys/figures don't rely on other companies to stick to it. Make your own, that's what model building and the like is all about. There's no reason to declare something invalid simply because it doesn't match reality. They weren't going for realistic, but what could get the kids to remain invested in our merchandise. Enjoy it, don't enjoy it, no need to be a downer on it. There are a lot of unrealistic looking toy dinosaurs out there, hell Velociraptor alone has lost its true interpretation and size relevancy for movie monster appearances that remain prevalent in our culture today because Chrichton himself thought that the ACTUAL dinosaur wasn't menacing enough for what he wanted in his plot. Thousands of children born after the book was published only ever know about Movie Raptors, they don't know that Velociraptor was actually a tiny little pest barely tall enough to reach the knees of a human being. (From what I admittedly recall of the scaling of an actual Velociraptor.)

    We can choose to educate, we can choose to show them the error of their ways, but getting society to completely ignore the prevalent trend is like pissing into the wind. A very troublesome idea.
     
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    And I say it again: Chaos Effect and these crazy hybrids are cool as toys. I do want to have an Ultimasaurus in my toy collection and I do wish Mattel would adapt it as a 2020 line. But I draw a line between the toys and the movies because while they use some artistic licenses they're still grounded in some reality and they still represent their dinosaurs as the dinosaurs they were meant to be even if they received genetic tweaking that makes them inaccurate looking next to real life dinosaurs.

    The difference here you can still propose JP dinosaurs as regular dinosaurs in any situation. The monstrous looking hybrids don't. I like the Spinosaurus, Indominus and Indoraptor since while they're hybrids of different dinosaurs, they still look enough like regular dinosaurs and that is something the movie makers and dinosaur designers went with. Stegoceratops and the like on the other hand don't fit next to them and you can't use them as dinosaurs outside their intended spectrum.

    I'm just saying what works as a toy doesn't necessary means it needs to be adapted to the movies. The only exception to this if they were shown as failed experiments in the next movie but not as main dinosaurs.
     
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    And I can't find decent dromeosaur ("raptor" dinosaurs) toys with feathers (aside from Beasts of the Mesozoic).Still Ultimasaurus would be a hellava more interesting hybrid than Giganotosaurus... with thumbs. :) 
     
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    And horns, and quills, and armored skin.
     
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    Adding sprinkles to a donut doesn't make it a different dessert. ;)  The problem with I. rex is that it isn't all that creative and just comes across as lazy.
     
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    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND here we FUKKEN go...
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    I guess if that is the only way to get him out there. If the other figures, younger and were in action scenes, shelfwarmed the way they did, imagine the store fires that would have happened if an old man figure was released in Targets.

    Mattel should have made him available via mail-away. 2 UPCs of other figures and $10.
    Leave the fancy package for SDCC.
     
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    Or include him with the Brachiosaurus.
     
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    I'd go for that. Leave the egg hatching accessory with the SDCC set. Leave the cane, Hammond needs his cane.